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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 1 year ago

Why does the controller look like one of those waist only mannequins showing off some funky new underwear?

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The Xbox Series One X/S 360

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

Makes sense:

Xbox - 2001
Xbox 360 - 2005
Xbox One - 2013
Xbox One S - 2016
Xbox One X - 2017
Xbox Series S|X - 2020

4 years, 8 years, 3 years, 1 year, 3 years.

2028 would be on the long side but not unheard of. The reason for the big gap between 2005 and 2013 was the 2008 economic crisis.

2020 was the covid/supply chain crisis.

[-] Kittengineer@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

Seeing it altogether- the naming is really quite ridiculous.

I never was an xbox guy, so talking about them is confusing because of the naming scheme. They lost me after the 360.

[-] dirtySourdough@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] runjun@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Xbox - 2001
Xbox 360 - 2005
Xbox One - 2013
Xbox One S - 2016
Xbox One X - 2017
Xbox Series S|X - 2020

Though, seeing it laid out like this makes it look like the S|X(6) was intentional. But clearly that’s too much credit for whoever is constantly day drunk while naming.

[-] Maven@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Microsoft is one of the worst companies at naming things. Only second to how Sony names their headphones.

[-] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Speak for yourself, the MDR-XB950N1 is a brilliant name.

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 12 points 1 year ago

Wasn't the One S just a refresh of the One? I wouldn't count that, tbh. I think it just had a 4K Blu Ray player and a new case. Like, I wouldn't call the Xbox 360 Slim a new Xbox, even though it had a new case.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

One evolution went like this:

At launch, it came with Kinect and 10% of system resources were reserved for Kinect processing, even on games that didn't support Kinect. That resulted in lower framerates and resolution than equivalent PS4 games.

Then Microsoft, wisely, removed the Kinect requirement and released a Kinect-free version of the one. With that extra performance boost, the One gained parity with the PS4.

Sony announced the PS4 Pro for 2016, but while it had more power than the stock PS4, it lacked a 4K Blu Ray drive.

Seeing the opportunity, Microsoft added a 4K drive to the Xbox One and launched the Xbox One S one month ahead of the PS4 Pro.

They also pre-emptively announced the Xbox One X which would be the powerhouse machine of the generation with 4K gaming and 4K physical media.

The idea being that hopefully people would choose the One S over the Pro due to the 4K drive, or would at least wait on buying anything until the One X dropped a year later.

Last generation was really weird as to one company having both the weakest and strongest hardware in the same generation.

Xbox One W/ Kinect
PS4 / Xbox One No Kinect
Xbox One S (same hardware + 4K Blu Ray)
PS4 Pro (stronger hardware, no 4K Blu Ray)
Xbox One X (strongest hardware + 4K Blu Ray)

[-] w2tpmf@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Why are you counting the One S annd One X as new releases, but not counting the refresh of the 360 that came out (2010)?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago

Because the 360 refresh was functionally the same, both the One S and One X added new functionality (4K Blu Ray, 4K Gaming).

[-] McBinary@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I think I would be okay with 8-10 year iterations. 3-4 years is a ridiculous money grab. I haven't owned an XBOX since the 360 though, so...

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

If Sony does what they did with the PS4, they’ll release a PS5 Pro next year and a PS6 in 2028. Pretty easy to follow at least.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Historic generations were about 5 years...

The big problem with the Xbox One was that it was underpowered because of the Kinect requirement, so they ditched Kinect then rebranded as the Xbox One S, throwing in a 4K Blu Ray player.

Still wasn't enough, so the One X had full 4K capabilities.

If they had launched with the One X things would have looked a lot different.

[-] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

How did the Kinect factor into things in terms of power?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

Microsoft required 10% of system resources be reserved for Kinect support, even in games that didn't support Kinect features.

https://www.eurogamer.net/how-the-xbox-one-gpu-reserve-unlock-actually-works

That reduction in horsepower for the actual games showed up in reduced resolution and framerate.

Lifting that restriction allowed the Xbox One to reach parity with the PS4.

[-] fugacity@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't know if I would see it as a pure money grab. Pretty sure game consoles, just like inkjet printers and the like are sold with zero or near zero profit (or even at a loss). The benefit the console manufacturer gains from the platform lock-in far outweighs whatever greed they might have trying to reap gains from the hardware. 10 year old hardware is roughly 30x slower in FLOPs, so we might be looking at a desire for better games or easier software development - I for sure would not envy the developer needing to target 10 year old hardware, though it's not exactly unheard of.

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago
[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Simpler times..

[-] chris@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

At first glance, I thought that was the backside of someone bending over. I’m sure I’m the only one though. Right?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I just thought it was bad, probably AI generated, concept art.

[-] rosa666parks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Finally, Xbox 720

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I remember when the current generation of consoles came out (Series X/S and PS5) that both MS and Sony and all the various gaming magazines were claiming that they would be the last hardware consoles ever. Uh huh.

[-] LUHG_HANI@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Maybe they realised cloud gaming is shite. Yeh for some it suits but look up the abandoned cloud gaming projects.

[-] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, discs are still a thing for Xbox and PS5, steam decks just download these really big folders for each game’s files to your SD card like our PCs do and the Switch has its tiny cartridges you keep in a little box in your carrying case like previous nintendo handhelds.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Probably. But I still find it funny how they were pushing so hard into making people believe there would be no more hardware generations.

[-] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago

This controller looks like a bikini top

[-] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I know it vibrates but you should know your controller is not for fucking.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago
[-] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

I hear some horny teens have tried to use switch joycons for that because of how small and thin they are

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Fuck microshit for their predatory pushing of game pass and not being able to own games. I would never buy an xbox and hope others don't fall for it as well.

[-] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

People also seem to genuinely believe MS won't just massively inflate prices once they've cornered the market lmao

The current gamepass pricing is unsustainable. There's a reason why MS refuses to say how much money they make from it (if any) and they lump it in with other stuff in their financials.

I can easily envision a future where gamepass is £30 a month or something, but because MS has bought a lot of studios and people don't own their games, people have to choose between continually paying that price, or starting all over again with zero games, and not being able to buy a decent amount of the big games, because they're only on gamepass.

Either that or it ends up like TV streaming where we have to have 5 different subscriptions to access all the games we want access to.

Fuck that. We shouldn't let either of those things happen.

[-] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by not being able to own games?

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[-] Centillionaire@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Game Pass is awesome. Back when I was a kid, you rented a game for a weekend and it cost you like $8. Now for around that price you rent a hundred games for a month.

Game Pass is just streaming for video games. It works and lets me try out so many games that I would never have spend money on, but ended up liking a lot of them.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I get that gamepass is a good way to play games but the thing is when this is if I really like the game and want to purchase it, I can't. They won't ever sell me the game files, they'll only give me the key to rent it out and can revoke that whenever they want.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Maybe they should sell some Xbox Series Xs first before thinking about next next gen.

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