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[–] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 117 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (9 children)

Well W7 is practically 15 years old, and already stopped receiving updates itself. It's not really up to Steam to keep it up and running ~~even~~ especially if Microsoft no longer bothers to update the OS, it would just get more and more problematic, and they also had to let it go at some point.

I don't think anyone cares about W8 though, even Microsoft itself barely seemed to put effort in making it work.

[–] Sabin10@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, it's not just a steam thing. My understanding of the situation is that chromium is dropping win7 support so anything using chromium will stop working on older operating system.

[–] icedterminal@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

Steam uses the Chromium embedded framework in case anyone doesn't know. This renders the web pages in the Steam client. As mentioned, there's no point in Valve maintaining the code base themselves when upstream Chromium drops support for 7.

This is similar to when browsers dropped support for Flash. Adobe stopped developing it and the major browser vendors removed their in-house flash plugins.

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[–] MrPoopyButthole@lemmy.dbzer0.com 79 points 3 days ago (2 children)

RIP Win7. You did what no other Windows could do. You had functioning components.

[–] Grangle1@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

Kinda weird of me to be throwing this out there as a longtime Linux user, but TBF XP was quite good too, maybe even better for its time than 7.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Win 7 really was the best of them all.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

XP.

Fight me.

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

The Chromium base, which is what Steam is built upon, itself isn't supported on Win 7,8. Can Valve work upon it to make it backwards compatible? Maybe. Will it be a pain in the ass to maintain? Absolutely.

Also, if you don't want to upgrade to Win11, you can make a 2nd partition for Linux and enjoy your games.

[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

You could also use Win10 with ReviOS, AtlasOS, Ghost Spectre etc. as an addition to your Linux partition

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

TBF an online Windows 7 copy is just asking to be Hacked given Microsoft support ended in 2020 and security updates after that required a paid subscription which ended in 2023.

[–] hobbsc@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 days ago (3 children)

It's surreal reading comments pining for win7/8. i am getting old.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 2 days ago

This is what game launchers looked like in my day.

If I wanted a different game I'd put in a different tape!

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

It's surreal reading comments pining for win7

Oh no they've been in a coma since 2012!

I jest, but seriously I was in HS personally while whinging about 8 and wanting 7 back after my laptop auto updated on me like a jackass. Its actually the event that lead to me learning IT!

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 16 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Who still uses windows 7 or 8? Who actually uses it for gaming?

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I was using 7 right up to the point last year steam said they'd stop supporting it.

I run a computer into the ground because I'm broke.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, but then it kept working, so I kept windows 7 installed.

[–] RebekahWSD@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I'm not the only one to use this machine, and the message greatly upset the other person, so we just got a new machine over dealing with the possibility of it continuing.

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

I did the same thing, but mostly because my computer worked, did what I needed it to do, and I was too lazy to replace it until I was basically forced to.

After building a new PC and switching over to Linux I was like "why didn't I do this a long time ago?"

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[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are a lot of reasons to not want to upgrade to Windows 10 or 11, so it's likely those people who defiantly choose not to move on. In the case of Windows 11, it also requires newer hardware just for TPM support.

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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The title of that article is kind of weird. It's just wrong to claim they are dead for gaming because of a lack of steam.

Anyone can just get Witcher 3, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Stardew Valley, or Anno 2070 from GoG and for each of them you can game for another 50 hours without needing steam. Or get Minecraft from their page directly and play for 100 hours. This is all without going to any retro titles.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Pulls support or bricks the program on those systems? There's a difference.

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Valve pulled support for Steam at the start of January 2024 for Windows 7/8. I thought that was the end, but apparently it actually just meant "Steam may still run but we don't support it in any way". Which surprised me when I booted up the old Windows 7 PC a few months ago and discovered that Steam still ran and seemed to work.

Apparently this update is actually incompatible and now Steam won't run at all.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 2 days ago

It's probably the inbuilt browser component that seems to be in everything these days.

Chrome pulled support for Win 7 and 8 ages ago, so anything that relies on an up to date browser is sure to follow.

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Im still preparing myself mentaly to jump to linux the next year with the out of service of 10. Its hard because stop using adobe as graphic designer... I hope we have get real linux alternative at that moment.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I believe in you! Personally, when I find someone charging me subscription prices for something that should have a one-time fee, I flip the bird and run to the nearest competitor, but I can't speak for your line of work. For my amateur needs, open source alternatives have gotten the job done, and I wish you the best.

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 3 days ago

As a profesional i dont have an alternative. Anyway i use the 2023 ver. Pirated. I dont like all that IA integration.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

People will mention Gimp, but check out Krita as an alternative to Adobe

[–] FrederikNJS@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

If you want to migrate to Linux, I would strongly suggest you set up a dual boot, and start playing with it to gain experience. Being able to switch back to something you know is a massive benefit when you are still learning.

While Linux has come a very long way, you are sure to experience some hitches along the way. If not because of Linux itself, then because you are not familiar with how to do "that one thing" on Linux.

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[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Well the last good windows is dead.

Once windows 10 is dead I am full Linux, I have already begun the transition, any time I have to install a new Os it’s now fedora 40.

[–] narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee 8 points 3 days ago

Does the CLI still work? If so, you could download and play all the Windows 7 compatible, DRM-free games in your library just fine. Alternatively, if you already had these games installed, they'll work fine without launching Steam first.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (3 children)

We lost Yuzu because of a Windows 7 user. Whoever that guy was, he deserved this.

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[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

couldn't you just run games through linux?

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