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[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because it's worse than new outlook, and that says something.

[–] ryan213@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I sometimes click on, "Try the New Outlook" button because I like pain.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago

Hey, hey now, no kink shaming found here! 🤣

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I always think "this time I will make it work." I'm sure you can figure out the rest

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago

"I can fix her" vibes.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago

But it isn't, actually.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

So they are keeping the Mail app, but changing it so you can't send or receive email. That seems pretty pointless. Just remove it from Windows altogether and be done with it.

[–] kennebel@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m sure there is a hidden dependency from the file system or something…

[–] alphapuggle@programming.dev 5 points 2 years ago

Calendar depends on it. Even in windows 11, mail and calendar accounts in settings don't function right if mail (& calendar) is removed

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm reasonably certain they are not aware of how to remove anything from windows.

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Explains why control panel and settings are both still a thing like a decade after they said they'd be removing the former.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kind of funny. Windows mail is actually the only Microsoft app I actually kind of like. At least design wise. I like how friendly and kind of mobile UI-ish it looks.

[–] pycorax@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Same, it's clean, straightforward and fast unlike the shitty web wrapper that is the new Outlook. If they go ahead with this, I might actually just go ahead and start writing a clone.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

don't forget that the new outlook app right out steals the login details to your email accounts, along with all emails you will send and receive even after uninstalling that malware:

https://proton.me/blog/outlook-is-microsofts-new-data-collection-service

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Isn't this an extreme security issue for companies?

[–] llii@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

No, because every company of the world is already a O365 customer.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 years ago

It's amazing, isn't it?

[–] progandy@feddit.org 1 points 2 years ago

Alternatively they are using google and their webmail client, no windows mail needed.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

¯\(ツ)

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So they are replacing windows mail with Microsoft outlook, which was replaced by windows mail years ago (well not really 100% true, its fun to think of it that way)

Although, to be fair, maintaining two mail clients is pretty stupid.

If they can stop pushing all the separate half baked "new"/"beta/"work" versions of mail and teams, and just update them so everyone's on the same garbage apps, that would be great.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just love how outlook is supposedly their best effort in the email segment, yet I have literally had it show me that a new email has arrived, then hiding it, and the only way for it to become visible again is to restart the app. This happens at least once a week.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Happens to me all the time too, I'll open it via the notification and it just won't show up.

Or I'll delete an email about 5 time until its finally gone.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I switched to Thunderbird when they started to get insistent about switching to Outlook.

[–] realitista@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago
[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Narrator: No one ever asked for it or is using it already.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

Yes please explain to me why I won't want to use Microsoft mail.

[–] mrcleanup@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Jokes on you Microsoft, I recently ditched windows.

[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Annoying you can’t sign in to the new app with a business account unless you have a specific license. Windows mail has no such restriction.