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submitted 18 hours ago by lil_tank@hexbear.net to c/askchapo@hexbear.net

As a resident of a vassal state I'm locked in a bubble of naïve liberal media coverage treating Democrats as the left. I realised that despite how evident it is for everyone here that the Dems have become increasingly rightwing with Biden and Harris, I've never found a source that bothered demonstrating it by compiling evidence.

Of course search engines are being completely useless at this, just shoveling endless trash from British and US corporate media

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[-] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 14 points 15 hours ago

Don't spend another minute arguing with family, friends, coworkers or Internet strangers. Go read the classic Marxist canon, read the history of socialist movements, and join an organization

[-] lily33@lemm.ee 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I don't think Biden and Harris are really further right than Obama - and they certainly aren't further right than Clinton. Like, democrats haven't been left in like 50 years.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 24 points 18 hours ago

Yea, Clinton was such a ghoul they wheeled him out to spew Ben Gvir talking points in Michigan

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 20 points 18 hours ago

Did Obama talk as much about ”securing the border”? I can't remember. I do remember he wasn't for legalizing same sex marriage in 2008.

[-] Feline@hexbear.net 19 points 15 hours ago

In 2012, activists called Obama the "deporter in chief". The Obama admin bought the cages the trump admin made gamous

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 14 hours ago

Oh yeah, ”deporter in chief” rings a bell, he did do all of that. I should've remembered that, especially that moment when libs decided the cages were bad when Trump was inaugurated. 2012 and even 2016 just feel so far away, though.

Also tagging @Frank@hexbear.net because I don't want to reply to two comments.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 9 points 15 hours ago

Yeah he made it a priority and built the modern deportation machine. Idk how much if anything Trump actually did with ICE, or if he just took what Obama handed him and didn't break it. Regardless, Biden has tuned the engine and the deportation system is apparently at capacity and to get any worse would need more staff, resources, and cash.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago

perhaps it's more accurate to say that the historical moment conspired to make the Democratic pretense of progressiveness untenable.

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 13 points 18 hours ago

They haven't ever been left.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 15 points 16 hours ago

the closest they've ever been to it was when they kinda supported some leftist policies (as long as black people didnt get any) to save capitalism and deflate the workers' movement

this was FDR

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