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submitted 1 year ago by lemmony@lemmy.world to c/reddit@lemmy.world

“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.

“FIRE STEVE HUFFMAN” is a clear, actionable statement that has a clear target and goal and actually has meaning to people who don’t know what Reddit is (like say, a potential shareholder or investor)

Idk where to put this since r/savethirdpartyapps got banned so post this wherever will get noise if you agree

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[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 307 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao you sweet summer child. You think firing him will do shit? The company has cancer. They are trying to go public. Nothing is going to fix whats wrong with the company now. It's terminal.

This is how it goes.

Company makes good product.
Company goes public.
Company becomes shit.
Company dies.

Rinse and repeat.

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 74 points 1 year ago

Also, firing spez does nothing because this wasn’t spez’s decision.

If you look at the history of Reddit’s API, it had a fee until spez became CEO again and made it free. This was when the 3PA took off.

Being the CEO does not mean that you get to actually make major decisions for the company. Think of the CEO as the face of the board of directors. They are the ones that approve/deny major changes.

You want the board changed, not spez.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why do we want anything to change?

Why are we still sitting on this new platform talking about ways reddit can be saved?

What's happening to reddit is the end result of the sort of platform it is and the current state of the tech industry. With or without spez, its course is set, nothing we do will slow or reverse it.

Feels like maybe there's some younger people here that haven't gone through the death of a platform/site before. Us older social media folks have seen this time and time again, have had to migrate from self-destructing platform to self-destructing platform many times.

So take it from me: reddit is done. No matter what happens next, it is never recovering. There will be no reset button or rolling back anything. The damage is permanent, and the profit incentives run too deep.

Let it go.

The cold never bothered me anyway.

[-] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

I am so tired of this sentiment. You're not wrong about the corporate stuff, but blaming people for wanting it to get better serves no purpose. For all its flaws, Reddit had something that no other site, not even this one, has been able to remotely replicate. I didn't use the site for news, politics, memes, or mindless scrolling. I used it because it was literally the only place to discuss niche topics and interests.

Whether we like it or not, it's the only place where a lot of these niche communities exist. Users that were here since Digg will find a new home, but the one who can barely use a Macbook may not. And I'm all for helping as many of those communities migrate, but the truth is that for many communities, especially the ones less technically inclined, the death of Reddit means the death of that community, and that's really fucking sad.

[-] Sunforged@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Niche community boards existed before Reddit, they will exist after Reddit.

[-] ScrimbloBimblo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 year ago

Not in a way that's accessible to casual audiences. You can watch literally any show, and chances are there's a sub where you can go talk about it. That was not the case 10 years ago. Unless your show had a cult following, the only people to talk about it with were people you knew. I hope that someday we can turn this site into the same kind of thing, but we aint there yet.

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[-] PenguinJuice@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We need to just let reddit die as a sign to all other executives that their customers are the ones who hold the cards.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We weren't the customers. We were the content creators. We gave the site value that was then sold to advertisers, as the cost of keeping the platform running.

Thinking of platforms like reddit as businesses is the inherent problem in the first place. Running ads or having some premium features should only be for the purposes of maintaining the site. The second the people running it decide that it's time to start making profit for themselves is the moment it dies.

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[-] Lenins2ndCat@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You want the board changed, not spez.

Katelin Holloway - Former exec of vc capital firm Initialized.

Michael Seibel - Y Combinator partner

Patricia Fili-Krushel - previously the President of ABC TV Network, and an EVP at both NBCUniversal and Time Warner Inc.

Paula Price - Former board member of JP Morgan Chase bank

Porter Gale - CMO at Personal Capital

Robert A. Sauerberg Jr. - President and CEO at Conde Nast

Samuel Altman - president of Y Combinator and now the CEO of OpenAI.

Zubair Jandali - global head of App Developer Ad Sales (owned by google). Ddirector of US performance sales at AdMob.


2 techbro ghouls

4 financial elite bougie pricks

1 TV elite bougie prick

1 advertisement industry ghoul and all round bougie prick

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[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

For me, it would more be about spez getting fucked and not being able to profit from the IPO. Couldn't really care less what happens to reddit at this point, but it would be nice if Steve Huffman got shafted as consequence for his greedy behavior.

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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it doesn't matter if they hire another CEO or put another board in charge. The outcome will remain the same. They're trying to IPO, get their cash, and then from then on, they'll be bending over for investors.

Reddit as we knew it is long gone. Its time to move on.

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[-] Iwasondigg@lemmy.one 136 points 1 year ago
[-] ipkpjersi@lemmy.one 29 points 1 year ago

It's the only thing that will actually make a difference.

[-] rDrDr@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

I don't care if spez is fired or not. It doesn't matter. He's incompetent, but he's just carrying out the wishes of the investors.

[-] ATiredPhilosopher@lemmygrad.ml 107 points 1 year ago

STOP trying to convince yourself that this is a saveable situation START getting on with life away from Reddit

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

The biggest thing to do, if you don't want to delete your reddit account, is to log out (and remove the saved login in the browser).

You'll be surprised how much your monkey brain resists logging back in once it is, well, "effort".

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[-] Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 84 points 1 year ago

It doesn't really matter who corporate shill runs reddit, reddit is already over the edge that they only care about what is under the line. Fediverse is the future!

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago

I said bye, now I say “Lemmy’s pretty cool”.

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[-] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago

how about we stop talking about reddit and enjoy lemmy instead?

[-] CYCLR@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

I agree, but, you know... This community is called "Reddit".

[-] Restaldt@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah i was going to comment something about stop giving reddit clicks but then i saw the community

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[-] Ad4mWayn3@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

“fuck u/spez” means absolutely nothing to anyone who isn’t familiar with Reddit, it’s just noise.

And "Fire Steve Huffman means absolutely nothing to anyone who doesn't know reddit CEO's name.

I'll go for an easier one: Fuck reddit, join lemmy. Easy and clear, and I'm not sure reddit would get any better with its CEO fired, they'll likely find someone similar.

[-] Sauvandu59@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

just stop using reddit and move to alternative site like lemmy.

[-] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Did that. Still really want to see Steve Huffman fired. And hopefully humiliated and shunned.

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[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 year ago

If you look into the history of "fuck /u/Spez" this is the comment(s) that he edited way back when. It's an eternal reminder of the bullshit that he's pulled in the past. The Streisand Effect in all its glory.

[-] twistedtxb@lemmy.ca 36 points 1 year ago

I swear some Lemmy users are worse than that overly attached gf meme.

Get off Reddit and stop talking about reddit.

[-] Pancito@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Uhm, you see in what community you posted this ?

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

If you're going to say anything, help guide folks out of the dumpster fire. Direct some more content this way.

Who gives a fuck what happens to / what people think of Reddit's CEO.

[-] faintedheart@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Reddit should die. And people should come here. I want more instances and communities developing here. Right now I have to hope between reddit and here for some communities. Steve Huffman can go and suck dick.

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[-] PaperTowel@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I'd rather just say to migrate to Lemmy, there's always going to be a Steve Huffman, but with Lemmy it's either impossible or incredibly difficult.

[-] gunnm@monero.town 23 points 1 year ago

Even firing him he would receive Ellen Pao treatment and put another puppet.

Instead of "fuck u/spez" use "reddit is dead" or "join Lemmy".

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

yeah. totally gonna fix reddit but posting shit on it.

[-] Lolors17@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

The best thing to do, is ignoring r/place. If we give reddit our attention they can continue, if not they're nothing.

[-] matt@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The one thing Musk and Spez have successfully done is make themselves scapegoats that leave people believing that everything will be resolved once they leave, so people have hope since there's a "clear solution."

These issues run much deeper than the individual owners and CEOs though, it's the rot of the companies and platforms themselves, and getting rid of those people will solve absolutely nothing.

What needs to happen is for people to just switch off and help grow alternative platforms away from corporate meddling. Will it ever become mainstream? Maybe not, but it will never happen if people never try and just give up.

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[-] letsgo@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Yeah but you're still interacting with the site, getting ad eyeballs and adding to the user engagement stats.

If you really want to fuck spez, get off Reddit! Lemmy's already way better.

[-] DM_ME_SQUIRRELS@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Wait, they banned r/savethirdpartyapps? I guess they really don't give a shit about anything other than making money.

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

It doesn't matter who the CEO is. They want to make bank and it fundamentally doesn't work with volunteer mods.

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