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I call bullshit obviously but funny to read

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[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

thinkin-lenin hey if all the rich people leave, then I don't mind staying in the US.

Too bad they're full of shit

They'd have to leave all their capital though, letting them leave with all their shit is just capital flight

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I call bullshit obviously but funny to read

I don't, but not for any electoral preference. I think a significant number of these ghouls know America is on its way out and they don't have any loyalty towards it. Even if you're living a life of luxury, i think the shine is starting to come of this turd and they want the option of skipping out in case we get any adventurous ideas.

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

I was gonna say the same thing. This type already exists for Israel, S. Africa, S. America, etc. I don't see why rich Amerikans won't move to the Philippines or something.

[-] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Right? Colonizers gonna colonize.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

They always say this and then they never do.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Lmao as if America doesn't have it's claws in any of the countries these types of idiots would live in

[-] regul@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago

If only it were that easy to get a visa.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago
[-] regul@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago

Oh I missed the "rich" in the title.

[-] sweatersocialist@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

wait no come back shrug-outta-hecks

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago

The problem with this type of thinking is that eventually, there are no more places to run to. If you live in America, and you are looking to move somewhere safe, there are few places that offer similar living standards. Even fewer countries can offer an upgrade to American living standards.

The only places that I can think of are western and northern Europe, China, Japan, Korea (not for long), Russia, Singapore, and Malaysia.

China is notoriously difficult to get citizenship in, even permanent residence is hard to get. Malaysia requires you to make an investment in the country (I forgot the dollar amount, but it's over 10k). Japan and Korea are safe for now, but likely in the coming decade (especially for the latter) things will get worse economically and militarily speaking. Singapore, might be the best option for Asia.

Russia will be hard to sell to Americans and euros bc of putin-wink and stalin-comical-spoon cold war propaganda. I don't think many westoids will entertain the notion of living in Russia.

Europe is probably the best option (in general) in terms of getting citizenship, safety, and living standards (no rolling blackouts, good healthcare access, low threat of famine, good chance for education, etc). It'll get harder for Americans to migrate to Europe, as more make the switch. Europeans will obviously not be happy with all the Americans showing up, and will ~~treat them well, and accept them peacefully into their society~~ bully them.

The destabilization of Europe at the hands of the country they're fleeing won't stop. Eventually European states will also join the list of countries that are not safe.

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I don't think many westoids will entertain the notion of living in Russia.

also the whole "if you're trans and or especially trans and gay, people can just beat you up without consequence" thing. Which is bad because that is one of the groups of people most likely to actually need to leave

edit: God I hope China's treatment of trans people reaches informed consent tier soon

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago

Aren't there quite a lot of rich expats on New Zealand? I know there was talk of lots of apocalypse bunkers there, but yeah overall it feels like the rats are trying to leave a sinking ship but all the lifeboats themselves are pretty compromised or tied to America if it goes down.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For the 0.1% sure, but if we're talking families with a household income of 300k then no.

Some millionaires and all billionaires will be safe, anyone not making that much money is low on options.

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

True but it seems this article is specifically about capital flight of millionaires and above, people that can easily relocate. For those around 300k the only option that might be even remotely feasible is fleeing to Mexico or Vietnam where a lot of the upper middle class expats all go.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago

You could do pretty good with a lot of USD in Mexico or Brazil.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those are absolutely not safe countries, they can and will fall to US meddling and destabilization. My point was that they're trying to flee to countries that are either not safe from US destabilization or have been destabilized.

It's like they're jumping off domino to domino, trying to not get crushed by the fall of the previous one they were on. It's just postponing the inevitable.

[-] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Russia will be hard to sell to Americans and euros bc of and cold war propaganda. I don't think many westoids will entertain the notion of living in Russia.

I doubt the veracity of any meaningful number of people emigrating over election results, but people moving to Russia is I think the most likely. There could be some weird Christo-fascists that like Putin's chauvinism and have enough money to live comfortably in a Moscow suburb.

[-] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Europeans will obviously not be happy with all the Americans showing up, and will ~~treat them well, and accept them peacefully into their society~~ bully them

Critical support to the euros for bullying the yankees

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

in the near future? after the first wave of rich people dipping like in the article, a lot of those people are going to be queer people and other minorities fleeing Nazi Germany 2.0. I know it's just a joke but this leaves a bad taste in my mouth

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 3 points 19 hours ago

Bold of you to assume queer people and BIPOC will be able to afford immigration into Europe.

Let's be real: Europe is the destination of white, rich, straight, cis people and families that make well over 150k in household income.

Everyone else will be forced to live with rapidly degrading living conditions and the rise of far-right militia groups in the US.

[-] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 3 points 17 hours ago

I mean, sure, a decent quantity will be rich and privileged people, but poor refugees and people who took donations to escape will still exist, this is the age of crowdfunding and stuff.

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