Still, I will be absolutely flabbergasted if we don't implement this sometime in the next 15 years

Ah but have you considered I still want my funkopops delivered with same day amazon delivery

Who needs blue skies

It would kill--at minimum--tens of millions of people

What is the mechanism for this?

They actually said that? Pfft. That's rich.

I had to see a both sidesed video in school where it presented one of the drawbacks of green energy as "will we have to say goodbye to the American way of life?" Even I saw the situation as American businessmen and governments alike simply being too lazy, too hedonistic to do the right thing. We all know it's the right thing to do, but nope too lazy.

Even as a liberal kid that was an enthusiastic yes from me. Brits were on one side getting unviersal healthcare and living in a beautiful country with tons of architecture and I'm stuck on some boring ass shithole with nothing to do but go to walmart and consoom corn syrup?

Sorry, my inner BMF was coming out.

I think I see a negative externality on the wall over there. Maybe he should go and get a closer look.

Doesn't China produce more new solar capacity than the rest of the world has like every year?

"Relatively wealthy"

It's probably appropriate for Americans (and Amero-weebs aka "guys who think they're on the team but absolutely are not" (looking at you Eastern Europeans who love America)) to stop this cope over PERSONAL WEALTH and consumption as a measure of a nationstate's wealth overall.

By every measurement I can think of and data exists for, China's population is "wealthier" than America. Oh, except in the areas of, you know, the shitty things. Like concentrating wealth in a top 1% and top top 0.1% of families. Or endlessly consuming shit for no purpose other than to distract from your meaningless life. As far as what I'd call true measures of a nation's wealth, things like (nutritious) caloric intake and availability, literacy rates, availability of healthcare (meaning the cost as well), child and adult educational opportunities and attainment, public works projects like building roads, energy grids and production ability, building rail and high tech trains... on and on. America has been declining for at least ~50 years in all of those areas. As in it just gets worse and worse. While China has been going up and up and skyrocketing in the recent decade or two.

This kinda cuts into the roots of the "GDP discussion" or rather the insistence of capitalist-minded (or biased) economists and random people on using the irrelevant GDP figure to "show" that capitalism and the US/EU specifically are "superior" economically. Goes back to the USSR as well and now days it's still moronically being clung to. A measurement of economic consumption means nothing about the "wealth" of nations. Unless your only measure of wealth is how many PlayStations can you buy...

Of course all the discussions of economics between US/China also leaves out the obvious history of one nation being a settler colonial slave state turned into dominant imperial power post-world war 2. That only makes the current state of the US more pathetic. The biggest head start perhaps in history, built on immeasurable human suffering, only to throw it all away so that Elon can jump on stage and try to do an X with his body, while people are homeless on the streets and the state can only find endless funding to support genocide. I don't think future civilizations (or whatever species might replace humans as the dominant intelligent life form if we blast ourselves from existence) will even believe what they are reading when they learn about the last few hundred years. It's just beyond comprehension

i will probably nuke this guy

The tech sector seems to have a high concentration of people who believe that because they understand one complex thing, they must inherently understand other complex things
"I can program well in 5 languages therefore my opinions on economics are valuable"

Especially when talking about air pollution, the literal textbook case of negative externalities. Just throwing bad sounding terms at things you don't like.

Tech people don't go outside so they think they'll be fine