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[–] _lilith@lemmy.world 511 points 2 months ago (12 children)

It straps you to the seat so when the plane suddenly drops 50 feet due to turbulence your dumbass doesn't launch into the ceiling.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 198 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, and this is a much more frequent thing than crashes. I've been on planes multiple times when there was sudden turbulence and people without seatbelts lifted out of their seats. I don't think any of my personal experiences resulted in someone hitting their head, but that happens. There was just video of one earlier this year.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ive seen a loaded drink cart get a few inches of the floor, though that one was intense enough that even the flight attendants adopted an "oh fuck we're about to die" face, which is comforting

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Probably less of an "everyone is going to die" and more of a "everyone is going to start screaming and vomiting" look.

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[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 13 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Exactly as you describe.

That scene in the pilot episode of Lost. That's why.

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 75 points 2 months ago (4 children)

I have observed that "very clever" people on the internet have a tendency to disregard solutions that are only partial, even if there is little to no downside to them.

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (10 children)

"Oh yeah? Why should I be wearing a seatbelt in a car when it won't even save me if we crash head-on into a semi truck at 100 kph?"

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[–] MudMan@fedia.io 26 points 2 months ago

Not even partial in this case. I mean, the "turbulence sending you into the ceiling" event is fully resolved here.

Anyway, just here looking for the common sense pedantic clarification, found it, so now here just to say good job.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (5 children)

If you play the SNES version of Monopoly, you can play against CPU opponents. Mind you, this is artificial intelligence coded in 1992, on a cartridge with about 16mb of storage space for the entire game. Only a fraction of that is dedicated to the AI decision process.

If you propose a trade, I'll give CPU $5 in exchange for $0, the CPU will respond with NO DEAL!!!

But if you propose "I'll give you $100 in exchange for $0, the CPU replies "IT'S A DEAL!!!"

The CPU was holding out for a bigger handout!

Unrelated, but if you hold the B button, and don't release, you'll keep looping the shaking the dice animation. They use digital photo scans of a real hand/arm.......if it were disembodied. And the animation looks like he's just jacking off.

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[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's a similar reason your wear a helmet on a bicycle/motorcycle, if a car hits you doing 50+ MPH you're probably done for regardless of whether you're wearing a helmet. If you go over your handle bars face first into the pavement doing 10 MPH it keeps that injury from being catastrophic.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Amen. Both sides of my head would be just scar tissue if not for motorcycle helmets. And that's just from sliding on the road, not hitting anything or being hit.

[–] variants@possumpat.io 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried not sliding on roads

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Yes! It’s pretty nice! 20 years since my last crash and still riding. I guess I learned something.

Most of those were on the racetrack back when I used to do that sort of thing, though. Occupational (hobbypational?) hazard.

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[–] modifier@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 months ago

Yeah but the cartoon is funnier.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also in the event of a crash you don't become a projectile that kills someone else.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 112 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That factoid is from a decade or two ago, when clear air turbulence was a lot rarer. Nowadays, due to global warming, turbulence coming out of nowhere is more common, and on occasion results in unbelted passengers being thrown into the ceiling and severely injured.

[–] LostXOR@fedia.io 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a source for that? I'm skeptical.

[–] textik@sh.itjust.works 71 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you follow avherald.com for any length of time, you'll learn that 1) the vast majority of aviation incidents are completely benign, and 2) the vast majority of injuries aboard airliners are caused by passengers not wearing their seatbelts. The seatbelts aren't there for the once-a-decade crash; they're there for the once-a-month strong turbulence event, which the airplane itself will barely even notice.

[–] sfbing@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

And in the rare horrific crash, the seat will not remain attached to the floor anyway.

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[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

In the event of catastrophic damage leading to explosive decompression it should keep you from being sucked out into thin air. Like if the roof tears off like that one time. Or that Boeing thing. Or that other Boeing thing. Or that other other Boeing thing.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The roof tearing off was a Boeing. an Aloha Airlines 737.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Or keep you from bouncing and hitting the ceiling in cases of extreme turbulence. Or yo help on cases of lower-speed crashes (cases where the plane goes into some nosedive are less likely), etc.

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 50 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Crash survival statistics are actually quite surprising. Like, you have higher survivability odds in the back of the plane -- cause everyone in front of you is your crumple zone.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Planes rarely reverse into mountains.

And the survival statistics have a lot to do with the amount of work that has been put into making the worst case "controlled descent into terrain" scenario exceptionally rare.

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[–] ArtieShaw@fedia.io 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

About 20 years ago I read a grim book about plane crashes. They claimed that the number 1 predictor of crash survivability on commercial craft was being a male between the ages of 20 and 50. They're apparently much better equipped to claw and climb over the other passengers on the way out.

Grim. I fly a lot and think about it at least every other trip.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The stats of surviving in a plane are quite high.

The stats of surviving in a plane with at least one death are very low.

Usually, if anyone dies, everyone dies.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No, people die on planes all the time. Almost 3 million people fly daily, I'm guessing people die in flight almost every day due to natural causes.

However, I'm sure the stats with 2+ people dying, survival odds are quite low.

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Almost certainly true of ocean landings. But I've spent a lot of time in bush planes (no crashes, knock on wood). I've had colleagues survive crashes where others have died. Perhaps it is sample bias, or something particularly about remote crashes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Air_Flight_6560 -- two of the survivors were in the back, both working for our company. After the crash: one never returned, one just quiet quit over the next year or two.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/yellowknife-plane-crash-kills-2-people-1.987369 -- this plane crashed into our office building, killing the pilots, but the passengers all survived. I wasn't there, but coworkers would often describe the experience inside the building.

It happens often enough that I have two examples where I'm only one degree of separation.

I had two colleagues survive a helicopter crash into a lake at full speed (calm day, no waves, pilot lost track of where the surface was) -- one of my coworked was ejected out the front window of the helicopter (seatbelt was on). Didn't even warrant a news story. But everyone survived this one, which may be a data point in your favour.

I don't have an actual source for stats. Got anything?

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[–] Lupus@feddit.org 13 points 2 months ago

Like, you have higher survivability odds in the back of the plane

But when you're sitting in the front during a crash the snack cart comes by one more time.

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[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago (1 children)

.....what? Obviously. It's for turbulence, which is common. This comic is a joke, but not how it's intended to be.

[–] realitista@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (9 children)

No, comics are the primary legitimate source of facts so I'm sure it's true.

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[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 29 points 2 months ago

I like the use of perspective in that last panel

[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't this proven wrong on mythbusters too?

[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 37 points 2 months ago

Yep - the seatbelt and the crash position are extremely effective at preventing death and lessening injuries

[–] Michal@programming.dev 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why does the seatbelt make a "cuck" sound?

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[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 14 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is he clicking or unclicking it?

[–] Albbi@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 months ago

I thought he'd be unclicking it by context, but with the hand position it must be clicking it together.

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[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Why does it say cuck on his pants though

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