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[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 37 points 1 year ago

I think you guys are misunderstanding what Brits mean by that... They value both very little.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kind of a weird question IMO. I don't even think animal lives are worth the same as animal lives. Is a single deer's life the same as a single ant's life?

I consider myself to be kind and thoughtful towards people and animals -- I'll save snails or worms that I find while gardening, but I also will kill mosquitos that are inside my house, and move spiders outside where they will potentially die.

This isn't even getting into "special" animals like pets

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

... but I also will kill mosquitos that are inside my house, and move spiders outside where they will potentially die.

huh, i just let the spiders be and they take out mosquitos and other bugs for me. we're symbiotico, that way.

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 year ago

I'm scared of / uncomfortable with spiders, so they're not allowed inside

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don't particularly love spiders, but I'll never kill one, even in my house.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would also answer "Human lives are worth the same as animal lives", simply because Humans are animals.

Never trust the answers to questionnaires with such basic mistakes.

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yeah, I'd like to see the results from the question : I have a gun pointed at your long time childhood friend and one pointed at this cow, now is this cow's life worth the same as your friends life?

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have a gun pointed at your dog and another pointed at a guy that's going around eating people's pets...

You are mixing the rational component of the question in general with the emotional attachments of particular situations. This kind of "I know it in my heart" drive is the same that drives things like racism and xenophobia.

[–] MartianSands@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Their point still works though, just reword it for less unnecessary baggage if you prefer.

Do you press the button which saves some random human somewhere in the world, or the button which saves some random cow? I'm pretty sure most people choose the human

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Most people would also press a button that will save a random human of their country over a random human from another country. Does that mean people have different value depending on which country they are from?

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

A better comparison would be if the human in question was a random dude you pulled off the streets. If this was a cow that I grew up with and shared a bond with, then yeah, I'd obviously pick the cow over some dude I don't know. If it's a childhood friend versus a random cow I don't know? Same thing but in reverse.

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You know what it means, though.

[–] gloriousspearfish@feddit.dk 0 points 1 year ago

True. But I would never answer a survey based on my presumed understanding of the surveyors intentions. I would always answer exactly on the wording in the question.

If you answer on what you think the question means, and not as it is written, you throw a lot of noise into the statistics.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why do they kill and eat them

[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because humans are comically inconsistent and morally bankrupt. The history of our species is basically slavery, factory farms, and HOA’s.

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But if I do that, there'd probably be a big ceremony saying I'm a hero and I'd have to shake people's hands 😰

[–] amzd@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which animals hands do you think you’d need to shake?

[–] So_zetta_slowpoke@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

My dog, who is a very good boy

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago

Interesting (or, perhaps, expected) that the more progressive/left leaning demographics correlate with a higher proportion valuing human and animal life equally. Sort of makes sense and I'm glad to see it.

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The search term you're after is NRS social grade. It's a UK demographics thing.

[–] baggins@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

My cat is worth more than a lot of humans.

Seriously, why no Liberal or Green voters?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What the heck are C2de and abc1-households?

[–] gedhrel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll try again in reply to the roght comment: "NRS social grade" is a UK demographics thing.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't know that. Thanks for clarification!

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At least the Tories like somebody, right?

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Animal welfare was actually a field they were quite progressive on, iirc.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The age trend makes this graph worthy of uplifting news community (as much as I don't like it).

[–] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I'm curious about where they draw the line

Me personally its between dogs and rabbits.

[–] conorm@feddit.uk -1 points 1 year ago

delusion at it's finest, humans are supposedly the smartest beings on this planet and yet this proportion of them are wasting their heads worrying about their former burgers' life, if the animals were meant to be worth as much as us, they would have developed metalworking by now