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[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 55 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

These are the “fiscally conservative, socially liberal” Republicans all over the city. It doesn’t matter what they believe, or say they believe, the only thing they think about at the polls is conservatism.

“I absolutely support education, just not with my tax dollars.”

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Ah the ol' bootstrap manifestors

Completely oblivious to the circumstances that gifted them their lives, yet insistent on making their delusion a reality for those less fortunate.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 19 points 1 month ago

My parents sure do love voting away all social welfare from existence.

My family would not have survived without the food, medical, and schooling assistance we recieved. Without their church helping out, we wouldn't have had the rent several times.

They don't see any problem here.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Gotta pull that ladder up behind them.

[-] NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

But why would you trust government over the church? They have God on their side!

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 month ago

Completely oblivious to the circumstances that gifted them their lives

I think it's wilful ignorance, at least sometimes. They know they succeed because of taxes paid by previous humans, they just don't want to contribute themselves.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 48 points 1 month ago

It’s pretty simple. Just like when the simple solution to defeating the Nazis was to fucking kill them or force them to surrender and rot in a prison. The approach still stands. You don’t let fire spread; you put it out. You don’t let disease spread; you kill or contain it. You don’t let mold grow in your house; you eradicate it.

You don’t let nazis march in your streets in 2024; you beat the fuck out of them and send them to hell.

[-] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 month ago

We can't beat up the Nazis when the cops are already there protecting them, it's insane that we've gotten to this point

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 20 points 1 month ago

The reality is that if people want to stop simply dreaming about revolution, shit is gonna get way ugly before it gets better. Us USA folks are stuck in a country that has both the biggest military and by extension, police forces, in the entire world. Our government looks at world atrocities and is like “yeah, we patented that.”

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago

We can't beat up the Nazis when the Nazis are already there protecting them

[-] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

I was hoping someone would comment that lol

[-] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago

We can’t beat up the Nazis when the cops are already there protecting them, it’s insane that we’ve gotten to this point

Cops were always out there protecting reactionary politics.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 34 points 1 month ago

There’s a word for people who voted for the Nazis over economic policy…

[-] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Ooh ooh ooh does it rhyme with Yahtzee?

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

It certainly does. And it’s important to remember that a lot of dissatisfied leftists frustrated with the democratic socialists decided not to vote as a protest in that election.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 1 month ago

Reminder that 23 of the best Nobel prize-winning economists agree: the economy and middle-class people will be better off with Kamala Harris.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/23/politics/nobel-prize-economists-harris-economic-plan/index.html

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I assume lower class people will as well. But voting over the economy is an emotional thing not a practical one. It’s a result of the two Santa tactic causing people to associate republicans with economic prosperity (of the same variety experienced by a fool with their first credit card and no job to spend their time with) and democrats with the unpleasantness of the economic slump this makes and the long term sound tactics that aren’t fun in the moment but do work

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

What is it ? I'm not a history buff

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Nazi. It doesn’t matter why they supported the Nazis, they voted for Nazis.

[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

aaaaaaaahhh hahaha that was a trick ! nice one

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 month ago

But surely the biggest problem in America is that oligarchs pay too much taxes /s We too will be welcome into the oligarch club, and who tf wants to pay 21% corporate taxes when we get there. Like why bother ruling over all of you, if we will have to pay taxes?

[-] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

You know and the fascism stuff.

[-] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 1 month ago

Genocide’s a dealbreaker but I encourage swingstaters to vote Harris

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 4 points 1 month ago

also though name the policy point of his you support? nobody talks actual positions lol

[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

He doesnt have policies. Just hate and random brain farts

[-] Doom@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 month ago
[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago

Any other Doctor Who fans who just see a worst timeline Capaldi reveal?

Oh no, it's the consequences of my actions!

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago
[-] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Is it wrong to call a Nazi a Nazi? No and it should be done regularly.

For 16+ years I've been watching the divisions grow. It started with the covert racism of the tea party and birtherism and in 2015 an orange turd slid down an escalator and brought it all out into the open, making it ok to identify people as rapists and murders based on where they are from and the color of their skin.

There has always existed "others" to those who need to have someone to blame or someone to punch down and there always will be. But I liked it better when they weren't so empowered. "Democracy dies in darkness" but so does hate.

It used to be that not knowing how to spell potato or not wanting to eat broccoli was enough to damage a political reputation. To say that you don't like the man who divides and insults, funnels tax money to his pockets, attacks women verbally and physically, and threatens the security of our nation and our allies'; but still vote for him is insanity. At this point I can only conclude that his supporters embrace the racism, are willfully ignorant, view him as a useful idiot, or a bit of it all.

End rant. I didn't want to actually add to the divide, but finding common ground is nearly impossible.

I'm happy to vote for Harris. A person who supports all Americans regardless of how they identify in any way. I am excited to have someone who will fight for equality. Someone who understands that income and wealth disparity is failing lower and middle classes.

Harris is not perfect, but perfect for me won't be for someone else, so searching for perfect is a losing hand.

[-] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 month ago

I agree things used to be more... sensible? But the issue I take here is the bit about hate. It does not die in darkness. It festers. It may be forgotten and quaint by the time it boils back up, but it remains. The best resolution to hate is enlightenment and education, but that is a difficult and involved commitment, which doesn't suit our particular need to fight the nearest alligator at all times. The greater risk comes when we've forgotten about the hate because we were busy with something else.

[-] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You're right it doesn't die, but it is suffocated a bit in my experience. When it is not okay to be hateful, when people actually are not comfortable putting their hatred out there, it doesn't spread as easily.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Now do the same with genocode support.

this post was submitted on 28 Oct 2024
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