The west is deindustrializing in the quest for Net Zero
Lmao thats a fucking lie
Wait, wait
The west is [...] in the quest for Net Zero
Still a fucking lie
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Net zero what? Net zero wage payments? Bc I know they’re not talking about hitting climate goals lol
The only net zeros goal that the west is actively pursuing is genociding every palestinians alive and other natives around the world.
They're trying to net additional zeros at the ends of their bank accounts.
Wait this is a 6 month old repost?
His main point isn't even true, China is installing more electric arc furnaces every year. As of January 2024, China has installed 151 million metric tons per year of operating EAF capacity, exceeding the 143 MMt/y needed to achieve the 15% EAF production target by 2025.
British steel, for comparison, has an operating (blast furnace) capacity of 5.9 MMt/year. Yet its going to take until 2032 for them to convert 4% of what China can do in a year? LMAO
So yes, they are winning in every imaginable way 
lmao, that's more than Europe's total steel production. Keep cryin' colonizers
British steel, for comparison,
An Indian company shut down British steel production last year
Ta ta!
After the very same company nearly did the same to Poland you would think other countries would think twice before letting them have their strategic resource production but alas.
skimming this it looks like all of the deindustrialization he describes is due to profit-maximizing decisions, which he then pretends were made for environmental reasons
Must be nice to live in a country where people are actually put to work instead of your choice of unemployment or two minimum wage jobs (and even then good luck getting an interview) because porky is way too picky to hire anymore.
I do hear that china has very high youth unemployment though but idk how the statistics are made if lots of those young people are in university or training I guess it’s not to bad
I remember looking it up and it was about the same as Europe but higher than the US.
It’s at 18.8% which is high here where I am it’s around 10%
but at what cost
Tons of CO2 particles that could have joined their friends and families in Earth's upper atmosphere but now aren't going to because the Chinese are genociding them with their "clean" (read "pure", obviously a dogwhistle for gas supremacy) technologies.
The righteous Carbon Liberation Front is being oppressed by the evil CCP!!!
Carbon Control Party
:kelly:
By the time the west has gone through its collapse phase, and begun to try something new socially and economically, it's going to be so far be behind.
Even from a purely nationalist chauvinist angle, neoliberalism has been an unmitigated disaster.
Summary:
The West Is Falling because our green energy is made by Chinese producers and because said green energy is weaker than fossil fuels because it’s too woke
Carbon emissions are still bad when the reds do it though cause they’re caring more about supplanting the
Free World
than about the environment because they still have coal power plants
The enemy is both woke and unwoke etc
seeing China's W's, maybe we need more corporate commies