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For me, it was that the Internet never forgets and that you should never enter your real name. In my opinion, both of these rules are now completely ignored.

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[-] 58008@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

As in real life, it's pretty sound advice to ignore, block or otherwise disengage from trolls and other forms of belligerents. Even in the '90s when I first started using the internet, the phrase of the day was "don't feed the trolls". But people just can't help themselves. They will even reply saying "I know you're a troll, but...".

The Steam forums are a great example, where every other thread is a fake "is this game woke??" screed. The fact that you can be rewarded for being a cunt there with jesters (which translate into points that can be spent to buy profile items) just makes it a thousand times worse. You get 'paid' to be a troll on Steam. It's insanity.

The only anti-troll weapon that works or is needed is oblivion. Let their steaming turd of a post curdle in solitude. Don't even downvote it. Being downvoted is a victory for them, an acknowledgement that they exist and that they've gotten your attention and that they've annoyed you. Shadowban them from your mind. Block them so that no future posts of theirs will infect your screen. Report them so mods can remove/ban them. Just don't engage directly with the post or the user. Don't say "blocked and reported" in the troll's thread/post. Just do it silently.

[-] DNU@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Ive blocked so many award baiters on steam, when an update for one of the bigger games comes out the first few comment pages are filled with "you've blocked this user. If you've blocked enough of them the comments get usable again.

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[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 14 points 22 hours ago

Most of them. Don't believe everything you see, don't give out personal information or real-life pictures... the usual.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 86 points 1 day ago

When you share something cool, link back to the original creator or where you found it from.

[-] hightrix@lemmy.world 13 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I’d argue this is the opposite of what was asked.

In the early days, no one would post sources or attribute “stuff” to anyone. We’d all just share what we thought were cool pictures.

Now, everyone gets mad when you dont post the name of the artist and their socials.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I would posit a big part of this is because early-net days were primarily for just socializing and sharing cool stuff (heck yeah, I miss it.) Artists probably didn't make a majority of their living through the 'net. If something was shared it was likely just "I think this is cool, folks!"

Nowadays, to say the Internet is heavily commercialized would be a massive understatement. Every little interaction is monetized. Many people make their entire living through e-commerce. It's just how things went.

Meanwhile you have a billion faceless sandfleas with repost-botfarms trying to hustle cash with the stupidest methods possible.

You'll see entire channels where animations or paintings or whatever are circulated on socials like youtube, twitter, or tiktok with the artist tag conveniently cropped out (if there was one).

Some are outright stealing the work for profit (selling tshirts or something), while others are just using it to farm clicks, which is also a route to profit.

The artist who made the work is cheated, perhaps unaware, as some click-grifter gets all the attention. And that sucks. :( As an artist myself, I try to make sure I share the sources for stuff now, because recognition is a form of thanks, at the very least.

I miss the sharing internet...the attention economy has basically turned the internet into a sociological illustration of "The paperclip apocalypse". :(

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[-] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 day ago

On the Internet I grew up on, pretty much anything was ok except to discuss (or even speculate about) the real-world identities of users who didn't very openly disclose them.

Now many people think the latter is ok.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 1 day ago
[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

twitter built itself on doing this the most nonsensical and annoying way possible.

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 22 hours ago

I’ve never used Twitter and every time I see a post with like… the original comment in the middle, a reply on top, and a reply again? On bottom? I’m like what the fuck is even how

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[-] Stern@lemmy.world 91 points 1 day ago

Don't feed the trolls.

Of course nowadays its nearly impossible to tell whos spouting racial slurs to get folks mad and whos doing it because they're just an asshole.

[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 5 points 18 hours ago

More recently, this behaviour is known as "driving engagement"

[-] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago

Don't feed the AI

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I remember when it was just funny edgy humor that was clearly satirical for the most part because a lot of us were just dumb kids. It was abrasive and stupid but you had this feeling everyone was in on the joke.

But bizarre satire has turned to deeply held conviction.

I'm not just sad that the mean spirited trolling persists, but that it's gotten more sincere and often must be taken seriously. :(

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[-] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 69 points 1 day ago

When reading a long text, disconnect from the internet as soon as it has loaded so you don't pay for the time you spend reading.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 113 points 1 day ago

Dont believe anyone on the internet.

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[-] Anissem@lemmy.ml 107 points 1 day ago

Don’t pick up the phone if someone is online… I’m old

[-] watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 1 day ago

I’m a millennial, I learned this, and now I just don’t pick up the phone.

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[-] Pyflixia@kbin.melroy.org 57 points 1 day ago

I'm a faithful follower of never using your real name in social parts of the internet. We don't need to know and we don't want to know. The only ones who would want to know are scammers or people wanting to give you a shitty time. I only use my real name online for people and places in where it's required like talking to agents from my bank, insurance .etc And very few friends know my real name through FB and the circle anyways.

Don't send nudes online to anybody. I know of some communities where people happily are flaunting it one moment then they make a post later whining about them being exploited or that they thought they were crafty hiding the nudes from someone they're married with. They delete it but they're too naive to think that what's already out there, has most likely been saved by hundreds by now, so you're fucked either way.

Another is, is that if you want to be understood, then you need to use proper spelling and grammar. I miss the days when you got kicked at because you used 'u' in replacement of 'you'. It's just two fucking extra letters you lazy asshole. These days saying stupid shit like; 'yah fr u tha fam' is somehow a complete sentence. No, I'm going to give you shit for it and if you want me to bother caring with what you have to say, fucking make some sense. I don't even get offended by insults when they're poorly spelled, it just tells me what kind of an inept moron you are.

[-] 01011@monero.town 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm with you on the no real names, no nudes. "Don't dox yourself" was the norm pre-Myspace. Facebook made it almost fashionable to do so.

I'm fine with shorthand and colloquialisms, especially in the era of the smartphone and their lack of physical keyboards.

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[-] MudMan@fedia.io 81 points 1 day ago

Social media killed online aliases and I have a hard time deciding if we're all worse for it.

Instinctively I still stick by that, though, as you can tell by my anonymous profile with no bio, but when I volunteer any amount of personal info these days people are often confused that I'm not sharing openly who I am or where I'm from. Every time someone does that it weirds me out because in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.

[-] CharlesReed@fedia.io 8 points 21 hours ago

Every time someone does that it weirds me out because in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.

And now it's come 180 in that some see it as a red flag if you don't give up that information. I had someone on a different social media site accuse me of being a bot because I wouldn't give up the specific town I'm from. I've seen it happen to others too. It is both fascinating and insane how viewpoints have changed regarding identifying yourself online.

[-] kablammy@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 day ago

in the 90s telling (and asking) people those things would have been such a suspicious, sketchy move.

a/s/l?

[-] Sequentialsilence@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

We were all 18/f/cal come on man…

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[-] stoy@lemmy.zip 59 points 1 day ago

I remember being taught in school to apply source criticism, and that seems to have largely died as a concept.

This was back in the early 2000s...

[-] hexthismess@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago

I was taught to cite websites by using the date the page was updated. Now I'm lucky if web pages even have a date on them.

[-] Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee 26 points 1 day ago

Oh, that one's easy! Just use the internet archivenevermind.

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[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Never trust anything you read on the internet

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[-] PatheticGroundThing@beehaw.org 9 points 23 hours ago

Sticking around and "lurking" for a bit before you try to engage with a new community, to learn the local etiquette before you make an ass of yourself. Or at least reading the rules as a bare minimum.

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[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

I'm old enough to remember reading about netiquette.

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