(Yes, of course I know that's not the Enterprise-D and that TNG came out in 1986, but you try making a better debunking joke.)
Also keep in mind that the astronauts communicated with Earth by radio. Anyone with even 1920s radio technology would have figured out that the astronauts weren't broadcasting from the Moon.
We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?
If we could fake the moon landings, we also could have faked the Soviet Union.
We were in the middle of a cold war with the soviets back in the 1960s. Proving the moon landing was fake would have been the propaganda coup of the century for them. What possible reason would they have to stay quiet about that?
That's always been my number one reason why the moon landing was definitely not faked. The Soviets never caught wind of it between 1969 and 1992? Come on.
Wasn't 2001 also made at that time? As I recall, that was incredibly realistic (mostly), far more so than a cheap TV show
(Not saying that 2001 is proof, just that ToS isn't a great comparison)
Similarly to the conspiracy that inspires this meme, the meme itself also doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
IT'S BEEN A LONG ROAD
However, for its time TOS effects were often really good. People expected the typical B-movie styles but got believable visuals.
Often. On the other hand...
Although I admit I found them fascinating when I was a little kid.
Are you kidding me? Those things were fucking creepy. And the sounds they made? Uggghh...
Of all of my memories of watching TOS in my youth, there were two that stick by me the most.
The first was sitting down to watch it with my brother on October 23, 1983 when I was six years old. Just after it started, there was a special news bulletin about some dumb bomb exploding in some place I'd never heard of and my brother- much older than me- kept telling me to be quiet and stop complaining so he could hear the news. Right as the bulletin ended, the credits for Star Trek started playing. It made me cry.
The other one was seeing those aliens for the first time and thinking, "I guess aliens don't have to look like us." It was a profound thought for a child no more than eight years old.
The problem with moon landings isn't that they can't be done, it's that they are dangerous as shit, with little reward. You'd get a better deal out of being sent to a remote desert island.
To orbit the moon, a space craft needs to move at about 1.5 km/s, or 3300 miles per hour.
So any landing starts with you going at 1.5 km/s and needs to end at the moons surface when you reach about 0 meters per second.
If anything goes wrong with your engines while you slow down, you smack into the moon at either near orbital speeds, or at fighter jet speeds. The window for having an engine failure and being slow enough to survive is so narrow that it might as well not exist.
That’s why Apollo used pressure fed, self igniting engines. As long as 2 valves opened, you had an engine. And Apollo landers had a totally separate ascent engine that worked exactly the same way, so if the landing engine failed, they could just drop the landing stage and return to orbit at practically any time during the descent. They even had a whole procedure of what to do if the ascent engine didn’t light when they were supposed to leave. Everything from jump starting the engine like a car with a dead battery, to physically getting access to the valves and manually opening them.
I hate the current plan for Artemis. I hate that in 55 years, we’ve only managed to make shit more complicated. The current plan is for a vehicle with no abort capability to ignite its 3 turbo pumped, liquid methane fueled engines at least 4 times to get from low earth orbit to the moons surface, with days between ignitions.
A capability that has never been shown to work or even exist in any capacity. Turbo pumps are finally machined pieces of engineering that need to behave exactly right, or they turn a rocket into either a bomb, or a giant tube that can’t move. And the current plan for Artemis calls for these finely crafted pieces of machinery to be subjected to the harsh environment of both space where they’ll sit for at least a week, and multiple ignitions, where they’re subjected to ridiculous temperatures and pressures.
Absolutely ridiculous. We never left an astronaut on the moon in the 60s and 70s, but by god are they trying to open the first graveyard on the moon these days.
you try making a better debunking joke.)
Are you kidding me? Lemmy is way too contentious to encourage me to do that - I am leaving posting to the professionals like you!
TNG came out in 1987. I sure hope someone got fired for that blunder.
To be fair star trek was impressive for the time
Most of the time anyway...
In my opinion the rough edges give the show charm and character, theres a certain magic to imperfection
I saw a rebuttal that said the special effects at the time couldn't have faked it.
What, Star Trek?
As a mod on both the Ten Forward and Star Trek communities, I can tell you that Star Trek TOS is 100% true and accurate.
Especially this part:
Yeah but look at how the shadow on the wall in the back isn’t in sync with the dancing. Checkmate atheists.
It looks fine on a CRT at 480i
On the other hand, do you know one of the companies that supposedly made the Saturn-V?
Boeing.
At least their build quality was generally good back then. I wouldn't trust them to build a Saturn V today.
Arguably their quality contributed to them being allowed to effictively oversee themselves. Did it save some time and red tape at the time? Yes. Did it eventually lead to hundreds of deaths? Also yes.
You appear to follow the Vulcan philosophy of IDIC: I Debunk Idiotic Claims.
I dick? Isn’t that Kirk and Rikers philosophy.
"Number 1, you do the dicking. I'm tired and haven't had my Earl Grey yet"- Jean-Luc probably
Yeah, but think about what the GOVERNMENT could afford! They were SUPER rich back then!
They hired Kubrik to fake the moon landing and he insisted on shooting on location.
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