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submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by weeen@hexbear.net to c/the_dunk_tank@hexbear.net

https://xcancel.com/JDVance/status/1834953058054287834

The tweet:

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Dude, I've always liked you, so maybe this should be a longer conversation. But come on. "Are there no upsides to immigration?" is a radically different question from "Should we drop 20,000 people from a radically different culture in a small Ohio town in a matter of a few years?"

First of all, remember that I've been on this issue for months, well before it became viral. You have actual leftists who will say, "look, housing prices have gone up, it's great for the local residents." What about the people who don't own homes? What about the grandparents who do own homes but would like their kids to have a chance to buy a home?

Look at the number of Medicaid recipients who are newcomers. Do you not think that stresses the local hospital system? I have constituents who say they've lost their jobs, or been told they won't be getting a raise, because new migrants are willing to work for cheap. There are homeless people who can't get homes. Look at the number of ESL students in a small school district--increasing over three fold to nearly 1,000 kids. Do you think it affects the quality of the education for locals when their schools are flooded with a bunch of people who don't speak the language? I could go on and on.

Again, a longer conversation, but I don't know why your automatic assumption is that the only reason people are complaining about this is that they have bad motivations. And I cannot stand the condescension directed at all of these people who--on the record--are giving very specific testimonials about how their lives were made worse

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/chilling-pic-as-cateating-claim-turns-violent/news-story/47182d4e93998fcce50f44cce5c69689 These are the real-world consequences.

https://xcancel.com/Sain4847/status/1834594269526479045

This is a really good thread, look at recent vents in the west (the UK pogroms with the Labour government's weak response, this 'cat eater' blood libel pushed by a PRESIDENTIAL candidate that the Democratic government is barely pushing back on (have they at all?), AfD, whatever the hell Macron is doing, there's an active genocide but most liberals don't care because they're comfortable, they're not Palestinians or muslims or immigrants.

The strategy for every 'left' party is to appease the far right. people in the UK stood by as a man blocked the exit of a hotel housing asylum seekers and set it on fire. BBC News tried to 'both sides' it, and all week we heard 'Um what if they had LEGITIMATE concerns?' 'Their ACTIONS were bad but their CONCERNS should be heard!!!' It's not difficult to see where this can go.

And then there's the repression of Pro-Palestine protestors on US campuses. The Squadristi are already here, they just aren't so organised yet..

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[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago

Dude, I always liked you

Well, now I can't say "dude" without thinking of the most Reddity vice presidential candidate I've ever seen. deeper-sadness

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

You are not alone.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 7 points 3 days ago

That was the worst part of it, I think.

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 32 points 3 days ago

Isn't Vance that weirdo creep who's obsessed with trans kids genitals?

[-] OptimusSubprime@hexbear.net 2 points 2 days ago

Yes, also he's the couch fucker.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago

He's just about a completely filled out bingo card of creepy chud shit, including "bloodboy for billionaire nazi vampire."

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately this description does not narrow it down a lot

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 3 days ago

That's every fascist and conservative lmao

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

There's so much wrong with Vance's tweet it's not even worth discussing. To debunk it all would take more time than wiping Vance's memory completely and starting him over in kindergarten.

[-] weeen@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

yeah, I just wanted to show how insane this tactic of 'incite violent pogrom over lies -> "well what about their CONCERNS"' is, and it's just normal for a VP candidate to be doing this.

But this guy is so awkward even his nazi rhetoric tweets feel awkward to read... Dude...I've always liked you bottom-speak but come on... we need to build the ethnostate shy

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Planted racist news controversy just before an election? Hmmmm I remember that one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMqic2IcWA Lotta white people in that one. Frat Boy Couch Fucking Dudebro JD Vance is a fucking tool doing the Reagan campaign playbook. "Good for whites" --JD Vance. I'd love to be wrong but this kind of shit only works on Boomers and republicans. (edit * Id love to be wrong that it has any impact) It may embolden some child fucking christofacist or maga brainwormed demon but most people will just forget. USians don't have the brain capacity or will to do anything by and large other than sometimes vote and get mad at the news.

[-] MayoPete@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago

It comes off as this year's "migrant caravans"

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