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submitted 1 year ago by TheTechNerd@lemmy.world to c/android

Oof I think this service is only worth it if you have a family plan and everyone helping. That is how I personally make it reasonable in terms of pricing.

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[-] li10@feddit.uk 56 points 1 year ago

I’m in the UK and it’s already too expensive imo.

Would be great if I could just pay for no ads YT without YT music.

In fairness, the amount of YT that I watch on TV/iPhone makes it worth the cost, but any increases and I’ll probably just cancel and watch less YT, which isn’t a bad thing.

Or maybe just look at getting one of those Turkish subscriptions for like £2/month

[-] ahto@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago

I would subscribe in a heartbeat if I could get a cheaper subscription without youtube music.

[-] li10@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, it’s just absolutely useless for me.

I’ve got a decent Sonos setup and use Tidal because the quality on YT music makes everything sound meh.

[-] Carter@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago

Indian family plan is £2 a month for 6 people.

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[-] henfredemars 45 points 1 year ago

Wow! It was hardly worth it to begin with.

[-] NENathaniel@lemmy.film 7 points 1 year ago

Feels like one of the best value subscriptions to me?

I use YouTube more than most streaming services and it helps support creators

[-] JesusRat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I can somewhat understand Hulu and Netflix raising prices because of video content licensing but Youtube Premium? Fucking stupid as hell.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 year ago

YouTube has also been increasing its ads for free.

[-] sunandair@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Youtube Vanced on my devices, Piped on my computers. gg saved you 13.99 a month

[-] LoafyLemon@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

NewPipe is also a good alternative if you want to cut Google off your data, it doesn't use accounts and instead subscriptions are kept locally on the device.

[-] zxo@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 year ago

I don't comment at all, so NewPipe gets most of the functionaloty I would ever want from YouTube. Plus, it also helps by not having personalized reccomendations to keep me stuck watching it.

[-] DrQuint@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I only use revanced because I consider picture in picture and playback with screen off a basic feature, and removing it to monetize inherently immoral.

The fact it comes with everything else is bonuses. I'd pay for those bonuses, but I won't if they try to cheat me beforehand.

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[-] ChrV@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

And SmartTube for TV

[-] tal@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I use yt-dlp to pull down YouTube videos, and have ad blockers on my web browser (I didn't actually realize that YouTube even had ads until what was apparently years until after they'd rolled out, was stunned when I used someone else's computer).

However, I would assume that if a significant chunk of people go that way and YouTube decides that they're losing out on sufficient ad revenue and/or profiling data doing this, that they're going to start blocking those. I would guess that they can make life unworkably difficult for any third-party clients connecting to their service if they put their minds to it.

YouTube probably doesn't care about SponsorBlock, because they aren't getting a piece of that money. Heck, they probably benefit if it encourages advertisers to go through YouTube rather than content creators on YouTube. But the profiling and the YouTube-displayed ads are probably something that they are going to care about, if push comes to shove and the impact on their bottom line is large enough.

And one more point -- I can believe that the Threadiverse could potentially displace Reddit. Usenet was distributed and was once the norm for Internet forums, and something like that could be the situation again.

But the bandwidth costs of videos are a lot higher than the bandwidth costs of forum text. I am not convinced that PeerTube or something like that will necessarily work at the scale of replacing YouTube. At the least, it's going to be a rather larger chunk of money that has to come from somewhere than is the situation with forums. Someone is going to have to be writing checks, at the end of the day. Maybe it doesn't have to be via watching ads or users getting profiled, but the money's gotta be coming out of someone's pocket.

YouTube also has some of its content creators putting material up to be paid. Reddit doesn't -- well, didn't, as it looks like now they're exploring that -- have that commercial model, where they try to pay people who create content. For YouTube content where the creator is doing it with the aim of generating income, any hypothetical YouTube replacement would need to generate money to cover not just bandwidth costs, but also paying content creators.

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[-] a_spooky_specter@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Gripping tight onto my initial grandfathered price from Google play music. $8

[-] tapple@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

How? I had the same plan and got an email saying they wouldn't honor the grandfathered plan and I was still being upped. I think they gave me an extra month or two at the lower rate and that was it.

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[-] rastilin@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

Objectively, Youtube Premium is the one streaming service that I actually use... with youtube dlp because actually I can't stand the interface at all anymore; but even so, I use it and I feel ok about paying for it.

[-] RixMixed@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago

Why do you have a subscription and use YouTube dlp, doesn’t that just download the video whether you have a subscription or not?

[-] chramies@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Nebula has a lot of the better YT content and costs much less than that.

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[-] krzschlss@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago

I've been sailing the last few years so far out, I can't see the land anymore. And kinda don't care about land anymore...

[-] UnrealRealityX@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You mean to tell me there is actual land? I thought we were in Waterworld?

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[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

What is the point of Youtube Premium anyway?

[-] nefarious@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

It means the creators I enjoy actually get paid, whereas with adblock they don't get any ad revenue.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

The creators will see jack shit of that price increase. It's all going into exec's pockets. The smart ones all have Patreon or other ways of monetising their content anyway.

[-] nefarious@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, I don't see what this has to do with my comment? I was answering the question "What is the point of Youtube Premium anyway?" and said nothing about the price increase.

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[-] chaorace@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago

You may be surprised to hear that the revenue split on Premium is the same as the split on Ads: 55% of all Premium money goes directly to creators on a member viewership basis. Alphabet increasing the price of Premium does increase the money going to Youtube corporate, but the revenue structure is fundamentally designed so that creators also receive an equal raise.

[-] lowleveldata@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

I can skip the middleman and pay the creators via Patreon or whatever, no?

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[-] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Block ads without having to use an AdBlocker, but like who doesn’t use an AdBlocker these days

On mobile it allows you to continue playing videos when you close the app

And a recent addition they’ve added to it for mobile is the ability to fucking queue videos

[-] Chozo@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

but like who doesn’t use an AdBlocker these days

Hard to do from a game console or Chromecast, which happen to be the two methods I use most often for watching YouTube.

[-] JuvenoiaAgent@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

On my Chromecast, I use this wonderful app: SmartTube

[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

If you got an apple device safari is fantastic when it comes to just air playing YouTube videos without ads. Sponsorblock extension works too and skips them. No messing around with third party apps installs.

Although, I'm not sure if consoles or chrome cast have airplay support.

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[-] NightOwl@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, Adblocker is part of internet security. Just using a regular search engine these days can be risky with the sponsored links that can lead to people going to the wrong site.

[-] Steinsprut@szmer.info 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No ads on devices where you can't block ads (like WebOS or Tizen TVs), and cba to circumvent it with newpipe on android stick or something

Also youtube music for some people I guess

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[-] sabriy01@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Phones, tablets; Revanced Extended

Android TV; Smarttubenext

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[-] poudlardo@terefere.eu 7 points 1 year ago

I use smartTube ony my TV (with sponsorblock integrated), LibreTube and newPipe on my phone (no ads, and download included), and YouTube + adguard, sponsorblock, unhook, dislike button extensions on my Desktoo. With all that effort, i do not need paying for Youtube premium.

[-] biddy@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

Huh? The ad revenue it replaces can't be more than $1/month.

[-] ghariksforge@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

youtube-dlp is the solution!

[-] tal@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

yt-dlp. Just "yt" rather than "youtube".

youtube-dl is an ancestor program of yt-dlp.

[-] AnonymousLlama@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Definitely wasn't worth it before and now they want to increase prices? Yikes. Guess I'll keep using revanced forever then

[-] funchords@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

The annual subscription, which was introduced in January of 2022, goes to $139.99 in a $20 increase.

I literally renewed just two days ago, right under the wire!

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