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Curiously, the agrarians, ur-Americans of Southern Protestant extraction, were influenced by the leading figure of the French Counter-Enlightenment, the arch-reactionary ultramontane Catholic Joseph de Maistre. Even in the present day, a Southern apologist for slavery has written a screed for something called the Abbeville Foundation extolling Maistre’s hatred of republics. Evidently, despising the very governmental foundation of the United States has become fashionable for a certain type of reactionary conservative.

Émile Faguet, a French author and critic, called Maistre “a fierce absolutist, a furious theocrat, an intransigent legitimist, apostle of a monstrous trinity composed of pope, king and hangman, always and everywhere the champion of the hardest, narrowest and most inflexible dogmatism, a dark figure out of the Middle Ages, part learned doctor, part inquisitor, part executioner."

Maistre hits many of the key themes of American conservatism: religious dogmatism, belief over evidence, anti-scientism, the imperative of obedience to hierarchy and a habitual brooding over violence.

The author then continues on to wealth accumulation.

Wiki Link https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_de_Maistre

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

I've been saying the cons are not real patriots and that they hate the real America and the ideals of this country for decades now. Of course all cons will deny this, but so do many "moderates" that seek to tone-police such truths....but it's fairly obvious that the cons truly do hate this country.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 2 months ago

Agreed. Most everything they do is anti democratic.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

There's a reason they stop reading the Constitution at "We the people..." and celebrate the Confederacy.

The bigger words past that point in the document tend to give them trouble 🥺

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

If they ever get to the words "promote the general Welfare", they'll ban it in schools for promoting socialism.

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

They don't hate America, they hate what it's becoming. Which is to say, they want to go back to pre-civil rights, when you were effectively guaranteed success by being a straight, white, and male.

[-] 1024_Kibibytes@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago

And yet you've never really been effectively guaranteed success in America unless you were straight, white, male and already rich. And most of them aren't rich.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Used to be only land-holding white males had a right to vote. Let’s go back to that and reverse all the woke.

/s I hate that I have to append this for people to understand sarcasm.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Hell, isn't that what Elon is proposing? I think it was him saying it should just be tech bros running shit unless I've got the wrong idiot tech bro.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

they want to go back to pre-civil war

FTFY

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 3 points 2 months ago

I've seen some of them actually say they want to go back to the Middle Ages.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Well we’re gonna overshoot the warm period but I can offer the increase in pagan practices as part of the cultural zeitgeist

[-] Silverseren@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

When, of course, civil rights has little to nothing to do with it. The current issues with the country in terms of economy, such as rampant inflation, is the result of the very policies conservatives have been extolling for generations. To go back in the manner they want would mean to reduce and revert the impact conservative policies have harmfully built up over the generations.

[-] ravhall@discuss.online 12 points 2 months ago

Dumb people being influenced by misinformation designed to crush the west.

[-] BigDotNet@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

IDK if I want to trust the Zionists or the Nazis.. maybe something with less fascism could be good.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's not an either/or. It's Zionist Nazis or Zionist lite. Those are currently the two things that have a chance in the upcoming American election. Currently I'll take slightly less Zionism and keep being involved in trying to get any democratic voting system that's not FPTP so that we have more than two options.

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip -1 points 2 months ago

🤚 we dont do that here

[-] ALittleSticious@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago
[-] MediaBiasFactChecker@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

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