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[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

:order-of-lenin:

Congratulations comrade, you may now proceed with your Lemmygrad appliaction. We are looking forward to your posts.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I mean I kind of am since I am helping build a new party centered on decolonial Marxism but I don't think that is what they are talking about

[-] JuneFall@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

@ChunkaLuta1973
Account suspended
Twitter suspends accounts which violate the Twitter Rules

Seems Twitter is against decolonial Marxism

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

lol yeah we have a new one. Sungmanitu gets too spicy sometimes, we've migrated control of our official twitter to a more collectivist approach. https://twitter.com/ChunkaLutaOrg

[-] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago
[-] Nagarjuna@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Imo when you combine the two simcerely you end up with CLR James or Franz Fanon: nationalists with a cautious and ambivalent relationship to nationalism.

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

are you the person running that account? if so god speed to your mental health comrade those patsocs are vile

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

No but Sungmanitu is a personal friend of mine

[-] ImOnADiet@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago

well let them know they've got comrades on hexbear/lemmygrad rooting for them (if they even know what those are lol)

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

lol yeah they do, my main role in the org is internet liaison/terminally online genX guy.

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I'd like to subscribe hexbear to your newsletter. we need more posts about these on the ground efforts.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

It's coming we're gonna put out a zine

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I still flip flop between ML and anarchism to be honest. I'm ML because of climate change time constraints but anarchist in heart.

Really what I care about is improving things. And I will use whatever toolbox seems to be the best option under the conditions in order to achieve that.

[-] utopologist@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

A friend of mine always says "I'm an ML now so I can be an anarchist one day in the future"

[-] iie@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

that's a good one

[-] Targuinia@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

the centrist leftist take

Am I an ML? An anarchist? Who cares, I just wanna grill (the rich)

[-] PurrLure@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

You joke but I genuinely feel like this most days. If anything is getting done we're gonna need to team up anyways.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

you've just birthed a new tagline

@CARCOSA@hexbear.net

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah I would love for it to be possible for us to simply build our new world and show people a better way, but we are running out of time and more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary.

[-] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary."

Welp, that's the gotcha for calling you 'tankie' according to these people.

Use state measures, and they would treat you as oriental orc with no sense... get crushed by authoritarians and they will publicly worship you while secretly celebrating a progressive defeat towards reaction...

Edit: I'm pro-Nakoichi, just to clarify...

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it all depends on whether by "authoritarian" the liberals mean "classes, hierarchies, oppression, bigotry and exploitation" or if they simply mean "using violence to bring an end to classes, hierarchies, oppression, bigotry and exploitation." I find that they tend to mean the latter. Hence, I leave it to Engels:

and also, oddly enough, Mark Twain:

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[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

ancom-heart

Wait why won't lemmygrad allow you?

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[-] Finger@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

no more half measures walter

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I have been converted to third worldism by all the contradictions. Something global historical materialism something super exploitation.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think third worldism is about to be ripped apart by climate change. We're going to see a very very rapid destabilisation occur from climate refugee movements numbering in the tens of millions. It took just thousands of Syrian refugees to provoke huge EU destabilisation that led to Brexit, Greece, Italy, far right movements, etc etc... What's going to happen when the numbers are in the millions is going to blow it out of the water.

This rapid destabilisation is going to create a lot of revolutionary events.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Won't that just accelerate fascism though? Though I guess you could apply the same argument to the third world as well, in terms of anti colonial nationalism that doesn't go anywhere.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes. But everything that creates revolutionary conditions also accelerates fascism. It will win in some places, but I'm also quite sure that it will lose in others. We can not change the fact that these conditions are coming so we can only figure out what we're going to do within them.

My belief is that we should be preparing for this situation so that we can act when it comes.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

I agree with you there 100%. We need to prepare now

Marxism-Leninism is a really good politics for being right about everything. Being right about everything is no fun when you're losing.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

i gotta say i literally do not give a fuck if an ML state or anarchism happens first or whatever. I JUST WANT THIS HELL TO BE OVER this-is-fine

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

"tankie" has become such a pavlovian response to these people that the second they hear it they've decided they no longer need to consider anything this person might have to say. Like conservatives the second they hear something is "woke" and they throw a tantrum

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's kind of brilliant in a way. The brainworms prevent them from ever learning, because all it takes is a single concern troll saying "I think these people might be tankies" and they automatically shut down.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm sorry what's wrong with those screenshots? I see not a single problem in any one of those screens????????? Jokes about Blahaj, the IMF and some other stuff, staying inside Hexbear, is not a reason to defederate at all. Weird.

People having a good time joking among themselves on Hexbear is not disruptive behaviour. It's not trolling, it's not disruptive, it's not harassment or abuse. Are there tankies here? Damn right there are. There are also anarchists, democratic socialists and there's probably a socdem hiding somewhere that hasn't yet been bullied too much for being a lib. This is just anticommunism. "Tankie instance" is just "they allow communists". It's incredible colony-brained shit, these people need to decolonise their minds.

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[-] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I haven't come across any Anarchist theory that explicitly forbids tanks... kropotkin-shining

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[-] crime@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

tankie just means "anyone to the left of me", exhibit #10392

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