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  • Judge James Donato intends to dismantle Google’s Android app store monopoly, following an earlier ruling declaring it illegal.
  • Google argued that opening its store to competitors would be too costly and complex, but the judge dismissed this claim, emphasizing that barriers will be removed.
  • Proposed remedies include banning discriminatory practices against rival app stores and setting up a committee to monitor compliance and report regularly.
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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ngl I like how the courts have been changing their response to Google et al’s “but that’s expensive and hard” defense from “oh, ok, nvm” to “to bad, do it anyways motherfuckers”

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

it's too hard and costly? oh no problem! we'll take that headache right off your hands so you don't have to worry your pretty little head about it. is there anything else that's causing too much trouble for you that you'd like nationalized?

i know it wouldn't happen but I'm allowed to fantasize

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

All marketplaces should be nationalized. App store, Amazon, food delivery apps. They are inherently anti-free market.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 43 points 2 years ago

They created it the way it is very intentionally. "It's hard to work with" is their problem, and has absolutely nothing to do with the relevant regulation.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 21 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don’t see what would be difficult about removing restrictions and maintaining or expanding a basic store API which they already have.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The only problem I see is Google already allows a lot of malware and junk in their store, this would only make it worse.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 19 points 2 years ago

That's a good mental backflip.

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Can you explain in technical detail why? Because I don't see this really being much of an issue.

  • Alternative stores in the App stores would still need to go trough Google's process of being accepted. Notices can be added to their download pages and these stores can even be forced to undergo a stricter process to make sure they are legit.
  • Downloading using a different front end changes absolutely nothing in terms of malware and junk.
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[–] Clbull@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Barking up the wrong tree, to be honest. Apple are the real monopolistic dickheads here.

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They're being sued by the DOJ too.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 26 points 2 years ago

Why go for the greater of two evils when you can take on all the evils at once?

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[–] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 22 points 2 years ago

I'm not disagreeing. Fuck apple.

But the issue here is that Google offers Android to competitors but to get all the services, you need to offer the entire Google Ecosystem. Which is why you see Samsung phones offering a Samsung store AND A Google Play Store.

Apple doesn't offer their OS to competitors.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Enough with the false dichotomy. Two things can suck at the same time.

It can be both my friend, and indeed it is both

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

Unlike Apple you can run an alternative app store (since Android 13(?) even with API for background updates) but on the other hand, Play Services are one big tracking engine.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Aren't other app stores present?

[–] BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It sounds like the judge believes the pre-installed Android app store, which is mandatory for typical operation (not really if you install a different ROM and tweak settings) needs to include easy ways for the end user to browse other app stores within it.

Note: I provide no sources to my claim and making a deliberately false statement to instigate someone else who knows more to post something true to correct me. Otherwise consider what I said as fact.

[–] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Reading the article does make it sound like it's either that, or having google allow other app stores to be downloaded via the play store and give them the same level of access to other apps that the play store gets, I assume for things like automatic updates.

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