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SMASH MOUTH's Founding Singer STEVE HARWELL Dead At 56 (blabbermouth.net)

submitted 1 year ago by QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz to c/music@beehaw.org

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[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 71 points 1 year ago

However you feel about Smash Mouth's music, his death is a tragedy of self immolation.

Alcoholism is serious, folks. Do your best to talk to your drinking friends about it sooner than later.

Also, don't judge alcoholics, they often have very real pain they are drowning in. From what I understand Harwell lost a child to leukemia many years ago and has been in a downward spiral with alcohol since.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 29 points 1 year ago

I don't judge him for his alcoholism, I judge him for being responsible for over 200 cases of covid.

...and also for seemingly throwing up nazi salutes at a show.

[-] astraeus@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago

I know this isn’t a proper excuse for any of his behavior, but he did have serious neurological issues that affected his mental state. This is exactly why he retired, he got abusive with his crowd and realized the next day he needed to stop performing due to the lack of control and awareness he had.

Does he deserve compassion? That’s really up to personal preference. I recognize his alcoholism and resulting health issues, up to his death, as a tragic loss.

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

I'd be willing to chalk a slurred "I'll fucking kill your whole family I swear to god." to his being an alcoholic, but I can't set aside his actually killing people by holding a show and saying "fuck that covid shit" in the middle of a plague.

Nazism is also a line that should never be crossed with any justification.

[-] QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz 13 points 1 year ago

That Sturgis motorcycle event is infamous for being a super-spreading event of COVID. However that Nazi salute thing was completely new to me, didn't know about that. Belongs somewhat to the same category with Phil Anselmo's similarly infamous Nazi salute at Dimebash 2016, even though Harwell didn't shout "White power".

[-] FfaerieOxide@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pantera are Nazis?

[-] averyminya@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

One of them (Phil) wants to be, the other two were being edgy.

Then dimebag died and only the loud racist one says anything now. Sucks.

[-] Hank@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Mentally ill people don't deserve any kind of sympathy if they show behavior based on their illness I agree on that.

Dude was basically gone at that point and literally died three years later from a drug that destroyed his brain. I think it's appropriate to cut him some slack.