It doesn't feel like a great idea to conscript those with mental health issues heavily impacted by stress.
this post was submitted on 04 Sep 2023
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Could always be used in administrative roles
True. I always read conscription and think "sent to the frontlines", but there's a lot of logistics and support that goes into an army.
My dad got drafted during Vietnam, and landed himself a position doing some supply/logistics stuff and basically spent his whole time chilling in Kentucky doing warehouse and office stuff. Admittedly he also did his damnedest on every aptitude test, evaluation, etc. they gave him to make himself out to be a coward and play up any non-combat skills he had specifically trying to end up doing something like that.
There's of course a lot of differences between 'Nam and Ukraine, but at the end of the day every army throughout history has relied on a whole bunch of people who weren't on the front lines to make things work. You need a whole lot of mechanics, warehouse workers, pencil pushers, IT staff, cooks, medical staff, truck drivers, etc. and if you're able to use people who wouldn't be able to hack it physically/mentally/emotionally on the front lines to fill those roles, it's kind of a no-brainer so that soldiers who are able to do it aren't tied up behind the scenes when they're needed.
Of course it absolutely sucks for anyone who gets conscripted.
Somewhat similar to what happened to my grandpa. Technically wasn't drafted, he had buddy in the draft office gave him a heads up that'd it'd be a very good idea for him to enlist soon. He ended up as a supply officer in Okinawa and got to take my grandma with him. Good thing too (and largely why it happened), the man's eyesight is/was awful. He would've almost certainly been a dead man had he ever lost his glasses in combat
It's a terrible idea and it tells me that all the propaganda were getting about Ukraine clearly winning and barely losing anyone is bullshit. They must be real desperate if they're conscription people with mental disorders.
Look at the list and stop talking out your ass. Wars are won due to logistics, lots of paperwork and so on. Granted, the situation could be better, but let's not pretend Ukraine has its back against a wall.
They are still kicking Russia like nothing before.
Also, they are not just accepting any mental disorder, there are many disorders that may prevent someone to be in the front, but they don't prevent one to carry supplies from A-B in the back country. Wars are not just won through fights on the front.
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All these comments "wow they'll take anyone, they must be desperate."
meanwhile Russia has been desperate for manpower this entire time and barely has enough morale to have people fight. Lmfao
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In other news, Ukraine has not held the passports of migrant workers and impressed them into the armed forces, unlike a certain other country.
Technically correct - they only initially refused to allow foreign students to leave the country, and beat up anyone who tried to cross the border.
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blood clotting disorders
you could not get me to go to WAR with a blood clotting disorder. Might as well just shoot me at the draft office and let me bleed out right there
There are roles for conscripts that don't involve frontline exposure.
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jesus christ
they must be running out of manpower
nah it's fine, they just clicked "scraping the barrel", now they just have to do some meme encirclements
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Real Volkssturm hours
Totally the actions of a country that's winning
Ukraine was invaded by a tyrant. The people have suffered for over a year, children have been slaughtered or lost limbs, civilians entombed in rubble, and the armed forces have lost tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands defending their homeland.
Now I'm not a violent man but I have to admit, in the face of all these poor people have suffered, reading your glib comment does make me feel like punching something.
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Maybe they just want to get rid of them. The west seems to mind Nazis a lot less than losers.
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Background: On 30 August, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reported that at a meeting of the National Security and Defence Council of Ukraine, it had been decided that a comprehensive inspection be conducted of the validity of decisions made by military medical commissions since 24 February 2022. These are decisions on disability and unfitness for service that were or may be related to corruption violations. All cases where the decisions were unreasonable and illegal should be investigated by law enforcement agencies, the president said. In addition, Zelenskyy announced that the system of determining fitness for military service must be reassessed to make it easier for commanders to recruit soldiers for combat missions and to prevent the concept of limited fitness from being manipulated.
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