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    "While attempting to take the man into custody, he did not comply with multiple commands to stop, and he physically resisted when troopers tried to remove him from the car," a state police statement said.
    "Troopers shot the man when he continued to drive in a manner that placed officers in imminent danger," the statement continued.

    Why kill him, though? Why even try to pull him out of the car? Cops have the perp cornered in his car, so why didn't they let the air out of all four tires, and sit in the squad car eating doughnuts until he gets bored and gives up?

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[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 63 points 10 months ago

Cops have the perp cornered in his car, so why didn’t they let the air out of all four tires, and sit in the squad car eating doughnuts until he gets bored and gives up?

Because then they wouldn't get to kill someone and have that amazing post-murder sex.

American cops treat lethal force as the go-to, and wonder why so many people are ACAB...

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

Defund the police all the way to $0

[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Nah, we still need police. But literally only a small fraction of what we have now. And a fraction of the budget allotted to them. And a MASSIVE retooling of the hiring process. We need to hire good, empathetic, smart people who want to serve and protect. Not these highschool C student bullies looking for everyone around them to respect their authoritah

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Empathetic people would burn out from the exposure to the horrible parts of society. None of them would opt into this.

[-] Daisyifyoudo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think your take on empathy is a bit oversimplified. Most people exhibit qualities of empathy. It's not just one size one shape.

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[-] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

2 reasons they killed him

  1. They wanted to
  2. Qualified immunity
[-] GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

"Troopers shot the man when he continued to drive in a manner that placed officers in imminent danger"

Try to hit cops with your car? Believe it or not, straight to the afterlife.

[-] DougHolland@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

Claiming "he was gonna run me down" is an excruciatingly common cop lie. I'll believe it when there's video that shows it.

[-] Juvyn00b@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

"they're coming right at us" as seen in South Park

[-] Madison420@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Dumber, they first place themselves in the way or hop in their window because for police these are apparently intelligent choices.

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Uh, if you have time to aim and shoot you have time to just fucking move? Like, just because you kill the driver doesn't mean the car doesn't stop moving.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Didn't you know? Police roots are very deep.

[-] Agent_of_Kayos@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

The video of the woman getting shot. The cop purposefully stood in front of her PARKED car and shot her because he thi ks he can get away with saying "she was going to run me down." And the scary part is he might be right

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[-] negativeyoda@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I literally thought this was the other story about them killing the pregnant woman. What's it say about the police and society in general that I'm like, oh, a different one from the same thing that happened last week

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Ok but is the property okay? Did anyone check on the stuff? I hope no items got hurt.

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