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It's the dunk tank.

This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.

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Edit: The user has since apologised https://hexbear.net/comment/3848285

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[–] aport@programming.dev 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Hi Hexbear Dunkers,

Thank you for calling me out on the misinformed, small-minded, and frankly awful comments I had made about the Ukrainian conflict. I am significantly out of my element talking politics, especially eastern european politics.

I appreciate everyone who responded to me, even if they were just pointing out how ridiculous or foolish I am.

I'm going to engage in some self reflection and figure out my motives for making uneducated comments on the internet.

[–] Chapo0114@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, I'm taken aback at a person actually coming onto the internet with an open mind. Good on you stranger, you're kinda my hero.

[–] aport@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a pretty low bar so please save your admiration for someone who deserves it. Thanks for the encouraging words though.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

It's a low bar, but you're still the first non-hexbear user I've seen do it since federation

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

This is the most surprising thing I've read all week.

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[–] christiansocialist@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That one post about how "programming.dev" users are complete dumb dumbs was pretty on point.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

every single time, without fail

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

My my my, there sure is a lot of lemm.ee trolls, paid pentagon shills and bots brigading this post. smuglord
Surely that can be the only explanation for people disagreeing with me!

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Whoops I cut off their reply halfway thru.

I know you all hate Ukraine and think they should lay down and let Russia steamroll into Kiev and annex the whole country. But reality doesn't always reflect your geopolitical wet dreams.

Geopolitics is when you think people shouldn't die in a senseless war. It's also somehow unrealistic

[–] lesseva96@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah they should just submit to a genocidal invader! That's WAY better than dying!

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The only one cheering for a genocide of Ukrainians is you buddy. I think they shouldn't die in a massive murder machine.

[–] lesseva96@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I have not cheered for anything. I regret this situation as much as anyone. I simply think that it's plain silly to capitulate to a mafia state that kidnaps and "re-educates" your children, bombs your hospitals and schools, massacres your villages and whose leaders have openly questioned the need for a Ukranian identity. I also think it's quite telling that these "peace appeals" are only made to Ukraine, even though it takes two to tango and Ukraine isn't the one trespassing.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I simply think that it's plain silly to capitulate to a mafia state that kidnaps and "re-educates" your children, bombs your hospitals and schools, massacres your villages and whose leaders have openly questioned the need for an...identity.

sorry not totally clear, you talking about USA? amerikkka

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How did the US. get Putin to invade Ukraine? I'm trying to follow the logic but I keep getting stuck on that one.

[–] nxdefiant@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Weird, I got this as a reply but then it was just gone:

So the implication is that the Russian invasion was (and continues to be?) a false flag?

Yeah, I'm still not seeing how the US got Putin to go along with this false flag, any more details?

[–] RollaD20@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They were engaging in a dang whataboutism bawllin-sad

Its a cheeky joke that is wondering why the United States has the moral authority to hypocritically police another state for actions that the USA engages in regularly and yet does not receive a fraction of the pushback.

It's also worth pointing out, however, that the USA has been stoking the flames of Russian-Ukraine conflict for decades beginning with Operation Aerodynamics.

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Well first off: if we're just making shit up, you might as well get creative with it. The Russians are actually harvesting the Orgon energy of the Ukrainians in order to fuel a massive necromantic rite that will imbue a thousand golems with life, which will create an indestructible army of russian super soldiers.

Secondly: The Russians aren't actually just bombing hospitals and murdering children, I don't know where you get these claims from, but you might've confused Russia with the US and Ukraine with Iraq. Even if the Russians were copying the American Shock and Awe strategy of warfare, that still doesn't really change anything does it? The Ukrainians still can't win, the longer they fight, the worse their negotiating position will be. But you think they still should fight.
So just to be clear: You think the Ukrainians should continue to be killed by the Russian military as they attack the defensive positions? You want this war to continue until all Ukrainians are dead? I just want to be sure I understand your position, which seems to be that you want all the Ukrainians to die and then Russia can just pick the corpse of the country as it wants.

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[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (13 children)
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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

e: this was the wrong thread for this, but it still kinda works

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

duty and obligation to try

PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A duty and an obligation to whom exactly?

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If you were a grunt in Lord of the Rings and your opponent was the orcish horde and Gandalf was saying this to you after having demonstrated his righteous power, there might be an argument because you live in a world where anybody with a baby brain can tell the good guys from the bad guys. You were born from a mother and your opponent was carved out of mud ugly and feral. It'd suck, but it's like fuck it, we ball.

If you're a member of a capitalist society being antagonized by a member of another capitalist society so that treat manufacturers can uphold NFT copyrights 13% more effectively, then there's 110% less duty.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you were a grunt in Lord of the Rings and your opponent was the orcish horde and Gandalf was saying this to you after having demonstrated his righteous power, there might be an argument because you live in a world where anybody with a baby brain can tell the good guys from the bad guys. You were born from a mother and your opponent was carved out of mud ugly and feral. It'd suck, but it's like fuck it, we ball.

Despite everything, this is somehow also the exact argument the op would use to justify more Ukrainians dying on mass. agony-turbo

Oh yeah, I guess I didn't circle back to it, but I agree. If bombastic violence is your approach, you probably think your opponents are an orcish horde.

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