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submitted 10 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

It's not just you — no one is posting on social media anymore::Social media is on the decline. Instagram is all ads. No one's posting on BeReal. TikTok is for influencers. The new place for sharing: group chats.

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[-] A_A@lemmy.world 295 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"no one is posting" posted by a bot and commented by AutoTL;DR bot !

[-] inspxtr@lemmy.world 98 points 10 months ago

dead internet, here we go!

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 25 points 10 months ago

Exactly the point.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 131 points 10 months ago

My big take away is that social media as we know it is likely generational. Like real time broadcast TV, it may just not be a thing at all in the future, at least not with the centrality we’ve become accustomed to.

Polls run here and especially on masto bare this out. Mastodon, for instance, leans x-gen/boomer with some millennial in its demographic. It’s hardly a young persons thing. Once you realise so much of the praise and enjoyment of the Fedi is that it reminds people of the older days of the internet, the generational picture becomes pretty clear. 15 year olds today were born after Twitter, Facebook and YouTube. Forums, Usenet, old Twitter are probably like black and white tv to them.

At the moment, I think it’s a major flaw of the Fedi, that it’s fundamentally backwards looking, trying to preserve older big-social designs rather than doing something more diverse or at least different.

An obvious example being private or closed spaces like group chats and the like including public versions if desired. This seems to be a growing form of online interaction, that is in a way more humane or eusocial. But apart from matrix, which sits separately, the Fedi is still stuck redoing Twitter and Reddit.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 67 points 10 months ago

There's only so many ways you can arrange a group of people, what they post and their audience. The fediverse is exploring most variations right now and it came up with things like decentralization and activity pub which are unlike any of the big platforms of yore.

It resembles the internet of the 90s only superficially. The underlying infrastructure and technology is completely different today. Most of the lean towards the 90s is caused by taking inspiration from the way they dealt with similar threats.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The fediverse is exploring most variations right now

Where are:

  • private spaces
  • messaging
  • chat rooms
  • my-space style personalised pages
  • Fusions of any of the variations you're thinking of?
    • Microblogging + Reddit
    • Blogging + reddit
    • Youtube + others
    • Any and all
  • Social RSS feeds like Google Reader
  • Wikis
  • Market places
  • Subscription based content platforms for any format (eg blogs like substack or videos like nebula)
  • Heavily privacy and safety focused platforms (with, eg, abilities to control who can ever respond or see your content)
  • Video shorts (which I personally hate, but there's probably something of value there)
  • Computationally rich posts/pages ... that is, content that is not merely static text of an embedded video but contains interactive components with highly customisable graphics.

Without wanting to be aggressive or critical of you here ... there's a good chance you, like many of us, are stuck thinking the internet can only be so many things because that's all we've been given for a while (like a long time ... like Twitter and Youtube have been around for longer than half the age of the internet, like we've arguable had real stagnation that might look like the age of Dinosaurs from the future looking back).

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 17 points 10 months ago

Fusions of any of the variations you’re thinking of?

Have a look at https://fedidb.org/software, chances are something has popped up there.

my-space style personalised pages

Now that's a blast from the past if I ever heard one. Do people really don't understand why MySpace died? The notion of "personalized pages" went out of style several technological and social generations ago. They're not coming back, and not because it can't be done, because it's an antiquated idea in almost every way.

there’s a good chance you, like many of us, are stuck thinking the internet can only be so many things because that’s all we’ve been given for a while

Given the above it's ironic that you perceive me as stuck in my ways. 🙂

Everything you listed can be done nowadays and there's software for it out there, way too much to list here. Thinking in terms of centralized and/or proprietary platforms is the old way. The new way involves offering services based on open source software, using portable infrastructure solutions, and making a privacy pledge to the users.

Everything you listed can be done either by setting it up yourself or by finding a service that offers it. There's a billion options.

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[-] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 29 points 10 months ago

My big take away is that social media as we know it is likely generational

I don't think that's the right takeaway. The demographics of certain platforms may be skewed, but people who for example were active on Facebook 10 years ago still exist, they're just posting a lot less.

I think engagement is down across the board because of various reasons: the continuing crappification of the various platforms, people are starting to realize the risks of oversharing and public sharing, people are getting turned off about loud toxic discussion, people are becoming aware that their data is being mined by faceless corporations who don't have their best interest in mind, in short all the negatives of these platforms have become more obvious to the average user.

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 98 points 10 months ago

Translation: more and more people overcome their social media addiction and adapt a healthy usage pattern.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 88 points 10 months ago

That's not really what the article says though. Sounds like people are just doomscrolling curated content instead of creating content themselves.

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[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 95 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So this entire article is based on a single person's anecdotal experience, other than this bit:

Bruening isn't alone. Despite the efforts of big incumbents and buzzy new apps, the old ways of posting are gone, and people don't want to go back. Even Adam Mosseri, the head of Instagram, admitted that users have moved on to direct messages, closed communities, and group chats.

This links to another article from the same site, and the only quote I can find related to any of this is this one:

DMs are also crucial for younger users. "If you look at how teens spend their time on Instagram, they spend more time in DMs than they do in stories, and they spend more time in stories than they do in feed,"

This Instagram head guy says nothing about how "nobody posts on social media anymore", just that teens spend more time in DMs and stories than in the feed. This just in, kids do things differently than previous generations! Mind blown, A fucking plus journalism right there. You'd think you'd be able to properly quote your own god damn article properly lol.

Honestly I don't even give a shit about this content, I'm just so sick of biased opinion articles based on the writer's feelings at the time filling my feed like they've uncovered something revolutionary. Stop giving these lazy clickbait news sites your views and fix the dumb bot that keeps posting this bullshit.

[-] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Welcome to modern "journalism".

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 68 points 10 months ago

Megalomaniac billionaires ruined social media in their effort to control the narrative and ruin privacy. It was a neat idea when it was just a way to keep up with people you were interested in.

[-] Demuniac@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Well people turning out to be mostly idiots didn't help

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[-] VITecNet@programming.dev 62 points 10 months ago

"No one is posting on social media anymore"

Posted by L4sBot...

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[-] Aloha_Alaska@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Wait, what the heck is BeReal? I’ve never heard of it before?

Does that mean I’m old now?

[-] pbsds@lemmy.ml 27 points 10 months ago

At the start of each school year some niche social media gains popularity, simply because each year wants something new and "untainted". Last year BeReal benefitted from this. It likely won't survive for long as they're losing users now

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 16 points 10 months ago

It reminds me of SnapChat back in the day when every other social network started copying their features. TikTok has "TikTok Now" now which is what BeReal was.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

Even us old people should know that he's the guy from Cypress Hill

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[-] query@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I signed up for Facebook for the first time ever, to comment on a local page about a local issue, and was first banned by Facebook for nothing in particular. Had to put in a phone number to reactivate. Also found I wasn't able to post if I included a link, a link to a government website, but I guess that's a very basic spam filter for new accounts. Then made some comments back and forth with no one really talking to me. Then about a week later with no activity, my account had been banned again, and now Facebook wants a photo. I don't even have photos online, and I don't see how they could use that to verify my identity, so that's where I stopped.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 23 points 10 months ago

It's standard practice for Facebook and it's been for several years now. It's simultaneously a way to combat bots and a way to start collecting data about you in case you turn out to be a juicy real human. They want your pic and your contacts so they can start establishing your real identity and recognize you in pictures posted by others. If you don't help them do that you're worthless to them so they block you.

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[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 37 points 10 months ago

Social media is dead. Long live decentralize social media!

[-] JdW@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

My Fantasy and SF book lovers goup on Facebook has more posts per day than I can read and gets new members every day. My music groups on Facebook have even more posts and content. Linkedin has more and more social posts (not a good thing, but hardly on the decline)

Article is clearly written by someone with no initiatve or personality or insight.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

Bruh they used "BeReal" as if it belonged in the same conversation as Instagram, and Meta. That alone puts them way out there.

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[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

Linkedin has more and more social posts (not a good thing,

True that. I hate every part of LinkedIn that is chat or posting. Resumés, job openings, private chat, fuck everything else.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago

I'm not in any group chats so I'm just lonely and depressed out of my mind how about that

[-] Mcballs1234@lemmy.ml 18 points 10 months ago

If you need something to talk, I'm all open ears.

[-] snake@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago

User nutsack needs to confide in user Mcballs1234

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[-] TrivialBetaState@sopuli.xyz 30 points 10 months ago

That's not true. I post on Lemmy and Mastodon, which I consider social media. I don't think that websites that communication based on algorithms aiming to serve unsocial purposes should be considered social media.

[-] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 18 points 10 months ago

Barely anyone else does though, thus the point.

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[-] notnotmike@programming.dev 39 points 10 months ago

My Zoomer sister-in-law told me about it. It's an app that will randomly prompt everyone to take a picture using both the front and back cameras and you have a limited amount of time to do it. The idea being that because it's random you can't really prepare anything beforehand so the content is more "real" and everyone can see what they all do day to day

I'm a fan of the reality part but not so much a fan of allowing your life to be timed by a social media company

[-] Uniquitous@lemmy.one 36 points 10 months ago

That is the zoomerest shit that ever zoomed.

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[-] ThatHermanoGuy@midwest.social 25 points 10 months ago
[-] AteshgaRubyTeeth@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Like the other comments say it’s an app which prompts users to post a picture at “the same” time. Its not actually the same time due to timezones.

The idea behind it is that you don’t ge to pick the perfect time for a pic when you’re at that great location or you’re looking especially cute. This means you’ll get an insight in the real life of someone.

Practically that means you’ll just see a lot of pictures of your friends whilst they’re laying on the couch 2 feet deep in a bag of crisps.

[-] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 10 months ago

BeReal hit #1 on the app stores by promising a more genuine social experience. It was popular for months, but the gimmick got boring and it fell off.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago

So, we need MySpace. A fedispace.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

I quit looking at Facebook so, so long ago and stopped posting anything myself well before I stopped visiting. In my experience the only people still posting are people I didn't want to see anything from or just sponsored content, ads and people pushing their businesses. Everything's so monetized, curated and awful.

[-] scarabic@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For a long time I’ve posted actively to Facebook and then at the end of the year I have my pictures and top posts printed up in a nice “yearbook.” There’s a service that does this (but I’m not here to advertise them). Anyway I am raising kids through these years so sharing milestones and pictures with faroff friends and family is very rewarding.

But I’ve stopped posting so much that I don’t think there will be a yearbook for this year. It’s just not worth it anymore. Not enough people are going to see my posts, either because they’re no longer visiting or the fucking algorithm has something catchier to show them. Whatever I put up gets the same likes from the same 8 arbitrary people and that’s it.

It’s sad because my kids love those books and leaf through them all the time, like a kind of family album. I guess it’s time for another solution.

Related footnote: the “people you may know” feature is just pure comedy now. It’s been forever since it actually connected me to anyone real. It’s showing me coworkers’ adult children now and my neighbor’s dentist and realtor and shit like that. I still look at it, but only for the laughs.

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[-] stefenauris@pawb.social 21 points 10 months ago

wtf is "Be Real"? I never even heard of it. Am I that old already??

[-] CCatMan@lemmy.one 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yes. Its a social app that will randomly ask you to post about what you are doing and it will use both front and back cameras for the post.

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[-] teemrokit@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

It was suppose to portray a more causal, carefree experience. As opposed to insta where people stage or try to show off. That's how it was explained to me.

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[-] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 10 months ago

I mean I post pretty regularly to my fediverse accounts

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 15 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Other apps like Dispo, Poparazzi, and Locket have all used various gimmicks to try and recapture social media's halcyon days — each had a moment in the sun at the top of the US Apple app-store charts — but none have truly broken through.

For instance, the content creator Nina Haines launched a group called SapphLit, a self-described "sapphic book club born out of the queer BookTok community."

Victoria Johnston, a 22-year-old software engineer, imagines the ideal social-media platform as a "safe space where people can just connect and you don't feel pressured to have a big following or a presence or be really well known."

And as more users and creator communities migrate toward closed spaces, the behemoths like Instagram are also trying to capitalize on this reality by introducing features like paid-subscription services that offer exclusive group chats.

Lia Haberman, an adjunct professor at UCLA Extension and an advisor for the American Influencer Council, said that Gen Alpha, the age cohort of 13 and younger, are "not embracing traditional social-media platforms and customs."

It's hard to know how the change will affect the online atmosphere over the long term — some evidence suggests the shift will create a healthier digital experience, but it also risks further dividing people into like-minded echo chambers.


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