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[-] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

It's crazy how many people don't seem to understand the part of the intro that says "To be a man in such times is to be one amongst untold billions. It is to live in the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable." It's pretty unambiguous. Hell in some of the lore there are plenty of places that actually seem almost pleasant to live in, though they rarely last long without being imperial or disappearing.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

The Imperium isn't even the good guys to humans lmao

corpse starch sounds like a conspiracy theory some rightoid in the boonies thinks is going on at McDonalds

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Are you telling me the Fascist Space Gothic Puritan Catholic Divine Monarchists with a 'Soviet And Starship Troopers' aesthetic aren't the good guys for mankind???

[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As someone who isn't a fan of Guilliman coming back and actually being a noble ruler (as opposed to previously the super sketchy high lords, who I thought fit a grim dark degraded tone much more), I've always considered 40k to be the bad ending. If there was a video game, the 40k we know would be an ending slide that happened when the player had truly made terrible choices. The game is over and we are stuck in the bad outcome. It won't get better.

Humanity in 40k is collectively a corpse that doesn't know or accept that it's already dead (just like the emperor himself- symbolism!). The most humanity can do are have brief moments of staving of things getting worse. Humanity can at massive cost and misery preserve a terrible status quo every now and then and call it a victory, but even the victories just lead to losses and the losses keep leading to the final death of humanity.

[-] Sentau@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Well if you go by the predictions of the Cabal, 40k is the bad ending at least when it pertains to the galaxy as a whole. Chaos slowly grows feeding on the corruption and unending war that humanity brings while none of the species truly flourish (except for maybe the orks and the tyranids).

Whether it is the good ending when it pertains to humanity only is up for debate because there are several hints dropped in 30k that this was only outcome which ensured humanities survival

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I actually like Papa Blueberry getting to wake up and say "What the fuck" to really emphasize that even the ancient space crusader thinks this future is FUCKED, but I have no faith in Gee Dubs to go anywhere worthwhile with it.

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's exactly why the Imperium should embrace Chaos. Chaos has been advocating for the survival of the Imperium for a long time and are actually the good guys. They got so close with the Horus Heresy but the Imperium, being the conservatives they are, decided that it wouldn't be the best.

Chaos will give the Empire the power it needs and usher in a new golden age of prosperity and will bring all those filthy Xenos to heel. The Empire is dying, but for it to live the Emperor needs to die. Death to the false emperor. ☀️

[-] Red_October@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Yes, Inquisitor, this one right here.

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The inquisition is just Khorne worship with extra steps

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Justified in universe, possibly. Good? No, they're fucking evil on a good day. But that's the point. Sure they're evil, but are they the most evil? No. The entire 40K universe runs on Gray and black morality; there's no such thing as good there.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

There is such thing as good! It's just locked up in grandfather nurgles closet being used to test the latest and greatest plagues and sicknesses before they're welcomed upon a unprepared galaxy.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago

Then why are those posts claiming they are good?

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago

As is the person claiming there is no good in 40k.

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

There is good in 40K but imho it's very rarely present in the power structures.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Good thing no one said a good faction then!

But they exist anyways. Eldar and Votann, die mad about it, monkeighs.

[-] Shapillon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Oh yeah, and I'm still kinda sad about the Tau becoming mind controlling assholes and the chaos gods shifting from neutral forces of the universe toward evil deities

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