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[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

If there wasn't any competition then it wasn't a primary, it was a formality.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

If there isn't any competition, then it's a noncompetitive election. It's still an election. In fact, it's the most common type of election.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

I.e., not an election at all.

You can stop pretending like the party's failure to provide any choice is evidence of Democracy in action. Quite the opposite, in fact.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What makes you think the party is responsible for providing choices?

Consumerist thinking at its finest. But the DNC isn't a restaurant or Costco. They don't exist to provide choices, that's up to volunteers. The DNC is just there to crown the winner.

So if nobody steps up and volunteers to challenge an incumbent, then nobody will challenge the incumbent.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 2 points 2 months ago

What makes you think the party is responsible for providing choices?

That's what parties exist for, to align political candidates that they might support each other. Going into a general election without a primary to test the candidates only ensures an untested vandidate will be on the ballot.

Consumerist thinking at its finest. But the DNC isn't a restaurant or Costco. They don't exist to provide choices, that's up to volunteers. The DNC is just there to crown the winner.

"The DNC is just there to crown the winner."

You can't be a winner if there is no contest. The coronation of "presumptive candidates" (presumed, specifically, by party leadership) is exactly what lost the election in 2016.

So if nobody steps up and volunteers to challenge an incumbent, then nobody will challenge the incumbent.

And thus, the party is disqualified from claiming that it is the party of democracy.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The party exists to support their candidate in the general.

The party doesn't care, at all, whether the primary is competitive. In fact, until recently parties often held caucuses instead of primaries, or just selected candidates in smoke-filled rooms.

You can't be a winner if there is no contest

This year there will be plenty of local candidates who will run opposed in the general election. If those races have no winners, then who will fill those offices?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

Nobody.

If the office needs to be filled, hold another election.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That's not how it works. A winner is declared no matter how many candidates.

And your approach is unreasonable, you can't keep repeating the election for county coroner when only one person even wants to run.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 2 months ago

County coroner shouldn't be an elected position anyway.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Should school boards be elected? This year, 58% of those seats are uncontested.

What about local judges? This year, 84% are uncontested.

[-] knightly@pawb.social -1 points 2 months ago

Yes, yes, and those are great examples of why the lack of democratic competition is an existential threat to the nation.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

But should those seats remain unfilled after an uncontested election? That would mean most of those seats are never filled.

I don't think the lack of competition is an existential threat. Democratic competition is motivated by a strong desire for change. But it's natural that in some communities nobody strongly desires change in some settings, like school board policy.

If and when the school board or judge makes mistakes, political opponents who desire change will arise.

[-] knightly@pawb.social -1 points 2 months ago

But should those seats remain unfilled after an uncontested election? That would mean most of those seats are never filled.

You could fit three full elections between voting day and inaguration day. The idea that elections take years is an artifact of our broken electoral system, not a fact of nature.

I don't think the lack of competition is an existential threat.

Trump is about to win a second term because the DNC conspired to knock Bernie out of the primary in 2015.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If nobody volunteers to run for school board between January and October, then nobody will volunteer in November or December.

Running a campaign takes time and money, and you shouldn't expect someone to volunteer those just to give you the satisfaction of seeing two boxes on a ballot.

And I see no evidence that President Sanders in 2016 could have prevented Trump from running in 2024.

[-] knightly@pawb.social -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Trump wouldn't even be a political figure today if the DNC didn't promote him back in 2015 believing that he'd be an easy opponent for Hillary.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago
[-] knightly@pawb.social -2 points 2 months ago
[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Nothing in that article suggests Trump needed help from the DNC. He became the GOP favorite the moment he announced he was running.

You seriously think Rubio could have defeated Trump?

[-] knightly@pawb.social -1 points 2 months ago

Nothing in that article suggests Trump needed help from the DNC.

You realize that's worse, right? Not only did the DNC fatally misunderestimate him, they helped him for no reason.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

No, it's not worse. They attacked him thinking it would help them, but it didn't accomplish anything.

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