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[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, since you recognize the importance of tackling climate change, let's focus on that for a minute. Even with the climate bill, we are still looking at a bleak future.

This "don't let the perfect be the enemy of good" speil is literally enabling a worse, more drastically dangerous climate future. Period.

It will get worse if not addressed seriously and the band-aids Democrats are offering will not prevent that bleak, bad future.

Scientists have been saying as much for decades and we are still not even close to taking it seriously enough. So the climate bill and how far it falls short is actually a mark against them, imho.

If it won't prevent the worst climate catastrophes that could result in global mass extinction (already happening, arguably), then it isn't even close to enough and we will be leaving our children and grandchildren a horrible hollowed out husk of a planet.

This matters, and so acting like it is "letting perfect be the enemy of good" is flat out disingenuous.

People will die because of decades of inaction. Lives that didn't have to end that way. It is selling out the future of our species for so-called "stability" now.

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Republicans are actively working to make it worse on purpose

What do you propose? Give me something that is viable.

People are going to die. Our stupid populace always refuses to come around and pay attention to an issue until they see bodies in the streets. That's the real reason we haven't seen major action on climate change until now. I don't prefer that reality, but it is sadly the one that we are working with whether we like it or not.

The climate bill isn't enough, but is that a reason to throw all progress out the door and allow the ones who are actively trying to destroy the world into power?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-scientists-say-about-the-historic-climate-bill/

[-] dingus@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Who is proposing throwing all that progress out?

I have been very clear that I understand the clear and present danger the GOP represents and that I will continue to vote Democrat while gritting my teeth knowing people deserve better. I have stated as much in this thread.

Am I not allowed to critique them without insinuations that I must be making bad choices in voting or am a Republican plant? Why am I not allowed to point out the reality that what the Democrats have given still isn't enough?

[-] Chetzemoka@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ok, well you didn't say that in any comments to me, so I didn't see it. But also, let's not pretend like there aren't right-wing bad actors out on these platforms pushing that exact "both sides" message to discourage people from voting. Because you and I both know there are. These public comments have consequences

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Our stupid populace always refuses to come around and pay attention to an issue until they see bodies in the streets.

Nineteen kindergartners were murdered in cold blood in a school and nothing changed.

Bodies in the street don't even affect them anymore.

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