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Biden introduces Zelenskiy as ‘President Putin’ at Nato summit
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Can't I want him to step down and give someone a shot?
I call for Trump to step down!
Given, feels like the default position
Last year or earlier would have been the time to do that, not this close to the election.
If they don't pivot, they'll lose. I thought he was too old last year but they've been propping him up and hiding it.
The only reason we didn't notice it before is because they've been deliberately hiding it and now the chickens are coming to roost.
This is his fault.
Yep, I'd prefer a long shot to no shot which is what Biden gives us.
Why are you so sure Biden will lose now? Are you withholding your vote for him? Who's got your vote this year?
The guy (or gal) who's not Trump, fuck that guy
No, because angy.
Yup - but until it happens these are the choices
And literally nobody in this thread is trying to say we should vote for Trump instead.
Its a statement against the country and media - not you individually.
Literally nobody in this thread said you were talking about me individually.
Not voting is effectively voting for Trump, and a lot of people are arguing for that.
Switching candidates this late in the game is also likely to help Trump, and a lot of people are arguing for that.
Point to a single person in this thread saying don't vote.
https://lemmy.world/comment/11126661
https://lemmy.world/comment/11124666
Neither of those people are saying don't vote.
Apparently people here aren't smart enough to scroll down to see the comments, so I'll quote.
Those aren't the comments you linked to. You linked to:
and
And then you think other people aren't smart enough to scroll down and find different comments that don't even say not to vote? You linked to the wrong comments. We're not the ones who either fucked up or were too lazy to actually find their proof.
But even with that, "the system sucks and the Democrats have enabled it to become this way" aren't calls to not vote. Biden isn't a good option and people should be furious at the Democrats for allowing this to come about.
That's the point of linking comment threads, so you can see the context and read between the lines. One of those threads, their own replies remove any ambiguity of their meanings.
And the reason those linked to the parent is simply how lemmy (vanilla, at least) works when copying a comment link. At least without fuss. And I'm on mobile.
But whatever, there's plenty of context just from the original links I sent. I really don't give a shit if it's not wrapped up nicely enough for you. I quickly provided counter examples from comments older than his without even trying to find them.
Yeah, sure man. If you'd just said "sorry, that's what was copied, I'm on mobile", I wouldn't have shit on you, but you made it out like you were a put upon martyr and it was everyone else's problem that your links weren't to actual examples of the thing you were supposedly proving.
It was a low effort reply to a low effort false claim.
But sure, keep whining about how I'm attacking you somehow, or whining about me playing victim or something.
Hope you find something to break you out of your funk so you can enjoy your weekend.
You're actually the one making the claim that people are telling others not to vote, so the burden of proof falls on you. That the claim was low effort is your fault, along with the lack of evidence for your claim.
You guys are so salty I didn’t need to salt my popcorn while reading this. I can only say that it is impressive what lengths you all go to to prove some super minor shit
Cognitive decline isn't minor? Like if this was my grandparent, I wouldn't let them drive a vehicle due to concerns about their safety and the safety of others. We're letting him drive a country. Stop gaslighting
The thing is, no one is saying to vote for Trump. No one is saying not to vote at all. Nothing you've linked states that. You're internet arguing against a strawman because it makes you feel good to parrot those classic Dem talking points. But in context, you sound like you're just sea lioning stuff no one is even talking about in the first place. Maybe be less intellectually narcissistic and try actually considering other people's perspectives and what they are actually saying.
Man. You guys really can't read the bold subtext or what?
This is literally the very next reply by the same user from the 2nd link:
They are not being subtle. They do this all the time here. They intentionally avoid specifically saying "don't vote, both sides are bad", but their intent is abundantly obvious.
I'm honestly amazed at how many people here are falling for this crap. They are all over lemmy making the same kind of tongue in cheek "both sides" layups. How the hell aren't you catching on?
Swing and a miss, pal.