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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by BackOnMyBS@lemmy.autism.place to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Sorry if this is not the proper community for this question. Please let me know if I should post this question elsewhere.

So like, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic or jump on some conspiracy theory crap, but this seems like very troubling news to me. My entire life, I've been under the impression that no one is technically/officially above the law in the US, especially the president. I thought that was a hard consensus among Americans regardless of party. Now, SCOTUS just made the POTUS immune to criminal liability.

The president can personally violate any law without legal consequences. They also already have the ability to pardon anyone else for federal violations. The POTUS can literally threaten anyone now. They can assassinate anyone. They can order anyone to assassinate anyone, then pardon them. It may even grant complete immunity from state laws because if anyone tries to hold the POTUS accountable, then they can be assassinated too. This is some Putin-level dictator stuff.

I feel like this is unbelievable and acknowledge that I may be wayyy off. Am I misunderstanding something?? Do I need to calm down?

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[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Good time to remind people that a higher proportion of millennials and gen z voted in mid-term elections than baby boomers or baby boomer babies (gen x) did at equivalent ages.

Millennials voted in the last presidential election at a rate that represents the highest level of youth electoral participation since the voting age was lowered to 18. Gen Z seems poised to do something similar, as this will be the first presidential election where a majority of Gen Z will be old enough to vote.

Additionally, gen x is the only generational cohort that voted LESS in the last mid term elections than the one before it, i.e., participation in elections declined for that cohort. I guess they were too busy... idk, doing whatever gen x does instead of voting.

This whole post is just one long "the kids are the problem because of their phones and video games," but I'm pretty sure the most politically active youth generations in modern history aren't ruining democracy by playing video games.

Anyway. Basically what I'm saying is: ok boomer. Oh well, whatever, nevermind, right?

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Millenials are old now. We're not "the youth", we're like mid-30s to early 40s.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Four years ago, when the last presidential election occurred, the millennial age range was 24-39. Beyond that, I'm comparing generational participation in elections at particular ages.

Further, not all of Gen Z will be of voting age for this election, so the youngest generational cohort where all members of that cohort are able to vote is still millennials, i.e., millennials are the youngest generation able to fully participate in elections.

I'm not saying millennials are all "young," I'm saying that in terms of electoral participation statistics, they're the youngest generation able to fully participate, and that compared to when Gen X and Boomers were going, Gen Z and Millennials participate (and have participated) at higher rates than the generations above them.

This is contrary to the subtext of the Boomer Lite (Gen X) poster to which I'm responding that implies younger generations are too busy distracting themselves with their phones and video games to participate in politics.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

It seemed really obvious to me that he was talking about actual youth, ie Zoomers. But you started throwing a bunch of statistics about millenials.

Millenials are a politically active generation. The fear is that Zoomers are not. That was the point I got from his comment.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

As I said, Gen Z has, so far, participated in the elections they've been eligible for at higher rates than any previous generation since the age of voting was made 18, including millennials.

The youngest of Gen Z is currently about 12 years old, so they've had less elections to participate in with a smaller percentage of their generational cohort able to participate. Nevertheless, so far, a higher percentage of eligible Gen Z voters have voted in elections than Millennials, Boomers, and Boomers Lite.

The youngest generational cohort that are all above the voting age are millennials, which have also voted at higher rates than Boomers and Boomers Lite at similar ages.

[-] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Nevertheless, so far, a higher percentage of eligible Gen Z voters have voted in elections than Millennials, Boomers, and Boomers Lite.

...compared to previous generations at that age.

Youth turnout is still abysmal, it's just less abysmal than previous generations.

[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Lol, not a boomer.

All I hear is I can’t vote for this asshole because Israel. Or, I’m not doing this (Trump and Biden) again.

And games are everyone these days. From boomers to high schoolers. Granted, I think the number of boomers is likely less than all the rest. I’m sure Steam is doing a hefty sales level from GenX on down.

And there absolutely is a time warp of avoidance in general. Even the media has less energy for the election crap of late.

Oh, bonus, sentencing for trump is being delayed until after the election.

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