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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by tifriis@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

Hi ! I'm a little confuse between all immutable versions based on fedora. Is this correct : universal blue = tool to create image, based on fedora atomic desktop ?

With universal blue, they created :

  • Bluefin = gnome
  • Bluefin-DX = gnome + developper tools
  • Aurora = kde
  • Aurora-DX = kde + developper tools
  • Bazzite = games

What the difference between silverble and bluefin for example, and which are you using ?

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[-] user@lemmy.one 6 points 4 months ago

There's also secureblue 🤣

My quick play w them: fedora(company) atomic distros like silver blue(gnome) vanilla way. Ublue(some independent developers) making their own versions/spins of fedora, eg bluefin, aurora, bazzite. Focused on a better experience.

Secureblue(some independent developers), also making their own versions/spins of fedora but focused on privacy/security.

None of them could see my network printer so I went back to normal fedora.

Immutable distros way bigger learning curve.

[-] j0rge@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

What kind of printer? What's the name of the package that got it working? We can add printer drivers pretty easily.

[-] user@lemmy.one 8 points 4 months ago

Hi Jorge, Thanks so much for reply. Love your energy on your project and YouTube videos. My printer is brother MFC-L2750DW. Sorry I'm "experienced" linux mint xfce user, and wanted to give fedora gnome a go for Wayland, selinux enforcing and zram for security privacy yada yada. When I came across your project, you and your team done such an awesome job. So I guess if I can get the printer up and working I'll go back to bluefin. Thanks again for TLC. ❤️

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Secureblue ships Chromium, is lead by a single person and does not care about privacy "if it leads to worse security" (i.e. preinstalling Chromium and removing Firefox, even though there is no evidence that Chromium is more secure, it may likely be less secure)

[-] user@lemmy.one 2 points 4 months ago

Thanks for info 👍

[-] poki@discuss.online 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

is lead by a single person

Ultimately, (some) decisions are made by a single person. However, the list of maintainers suggests that contributions are welcome.

~~> even though there is no evidence that Chromium is not even less secure)~~

~~The double negation makes it hard to understand; but if I would give it a try, then I would get the following:~~

~~"even though there is evidence that Chromium is even less secure)"~~

~~If the above represents your views, could you provide said evidence?~~

even though there is no evidence that Chromium is not even less secure

What's your take on Madaidan's (i.e. security researcher on projects like Kicksecure and Whonix) article on the matter? I'm aware that it's a bit outdated. However, would you be able to confidently claim that nothing found within is relevant today?

[-] Shareni@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago

"even though there is evidence that Chromium is even less secure)"

That's not how double negatives work. The alternative would be:

Even though there's no evidence that chromium is more secure.

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 months ago

This. Fixed it up

[-] poki@discuss.online 2 points 4 months ago

I think you're right. Thank you!

[-] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

The article is very outdated and possibly not complete. ChromeOS uses Linux so you can assume it is very secure there.

I miss a debunk on the exact points by firefox devs.

But people everywhere told me madaidans article is not correct. Torbrowser also still doesnt use Chromium for various reasons. And that is the most security critical browser there is.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago

There was a post about that exact issue not that long ago, basically, you have to do some networking trickery to get some printers to work.

I agree that there's a big learning curve, though it's a nice option if everything you need can be found as a flatpak or appimage.

[-] kenkenken@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

It is quite opinionated though.

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