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This is why it's so frustrating to see people saying they won't vote because Biden is old (yes) and supports Israel (mostly true, albeit more complicated than that). Neat, but if Trump gets reelected, I'd be willing to bet that most of the conservative justices suddenly retire and we end up with a bunch of 35 year olds with lifetime appointments who can spend decades fucking stuff up. Hooray!
It's so dumb, I don't understand why people just refuse to think about the long term consequences instead of just "i want to vote for the perfect person right now so if no one is perfect i won't vote." Like I know Biden is a terrible candidate, but like I'd personally like to still have a department of education by the next election????
Honestly... I'd just settle for a next election....
If they can't grasp they are voting for a executive branch run by thousands of people either attached to one 80 year old or the other is the reality of this, it's going to be hard to convince them.
Trump wins that means we're back to the foxes running the hen house in every government office, all the worst of Trump cronyism will be back and 1000x worse.
You know whats dumb? Sticking by geriatric mentally infirm candidates. Literally they say on every network on TV that this election will be decided by double haters (people who hate both candidates), yet the population refuses to vote third party (such as the wonderful Chase Oliver who is on the ballot in all fifty states) despite the establishment clearly showing it refuses to change. You are the dumb one to me, you defend a terrible candidate who isn’t even all there, tell me how he defeated medicare during his term?
I would love to vote third party, but there is no chance of a third party winning until we have rank choice voting or another improved system, at this point it's just a waste of your vote
A waste of your vote is support a terrible candidate because thats just how its always been done. Why even vote, you don’t want actual change. The fact that everyone seems to be a double-hater while refusing to vote third party is insane. Both Biden and Trump want you to think they are the only choices, thats why they specifically refused to let anyone else at the debate.
A third party hasn't won a single state since 1968. Unless you have some master plan to get enough people behind one specific candidate to make them win not just a state but the entire electoral college, it's not going to happen. If we keep letting republicans get into power it is just going to put us further away from any kind of election reform that would allow a third party to win. If we don't back biden, trump will win.
My plan is to support and vote Chase Oliver and tell everyone I possibly can about him and point them to his website https://www.votechaseoliver.com/, he is also the only third party on all 50 states voter rolls. My plan is literally just to inform everyone, right now the only resistance I have is that people like you say he can not win against the two most foul and unlikeable candidates, which sounds like an excuse to stay with the status quo.