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No, seriously, why do they? It's not like the construction workers don't get paid their wages if they aren't given such projects, and, unless you are buying the resources from overseas, the only cost for the construction materials for the state is wages/salaries of the workers who are involved in the relevant processes.

Am I being swindled?

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[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

When you buy buildings you are buying the resources

From where?
If you are requisitioning resources within the country, i.e. you are requisitioning them from another part of the state, it makes no sense to have them cost money.
If you are requisitioning them from abroad, then it should be made clearer that your state can't spare any resources for the city, I think. Albeit, I guess, you are already getting all of the explicit stuff from abroad.

having them shipped in

The people who work on transporting resources within the country are not going to not be paid if they aren't working on these projects, either. Where does this money go?

and having foreign contract workers come in with that to actually build it for you using their equipment

Firstly, why does your state not have construction workers?
Secondly, why can't you requisition the workers from the USSR or another planned economy?

It may be a game setting to enable a more complicated build option (so if you're still in the tutorial campaign this may be disabled...

Yeah, I have only glanced at the tutorial.

and you need to be sourcing all of those things from somewhere

Why can't you source it from your own state? Why are your options limited to either producing the resources within the city, or trading internationally with the USSR or, bleh, the western powers?

[-] KobaCumTribute@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago

From where?

A neighboring country, either Soviet or Western depending on the currency you use for this.

Firstly, why does your state not have construction workers?

Because you don't have local construction coordinating offices and vehicle depots yet, so you're relying on outside help.

Secondly, why can't you requisition the workers from the USSR or another planned economy?

You do, but they want compensation. It's kind of a gamification of... Actually, you know what? Given the time period it defaults to (starting in 1959), I'm just gonna blame Khrushchev. Maybe it's an alternate history where he was even more revisionist and did more Gorbachev level dipshittery with trying to liberalize the central planning.

A more realistic answer is that you're entirely independent and just maintain neutral terms with both the Soviets and the West, so even though you can freely trade with both neither is going to come in and build things for you or make any sort of demands of you. Which is ludicrously unrealistic considering you're sitting on huge deposits of oil, coal, metals, and uranium, but that's city builder logic for you.

Why can't you source it from your own state? Why are your options limited to either producing the resources within the city,

You're running an independent border republic roughly the size of something like Andorra, maybe a little bigger. Everything outside your borders is foreign, even the Soviets.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

A neighboring country, either Soviet or Western depending on the currency you use for this. Because you don't have local construction coordinating offices and vehicle depots yet, so you're relying on outside help.

Which has the silly implication that there are no other cities under your state, or your state has no industry for producing construction materials and educating construction workers domestically outside of this specific city.

You do, but they want compensation

Well, the workers aren't going to go wageless/salariless regardless of whether or not they are working on the project, and I don't think that there even were contract workers in the USSR.
You would have to pay the relevant state for this sort of deal, though.

Actually, you know what? Given the time period it defaults to (starting in 1959), I'm just gonna blame Khrushchev

corn-man-khrush

You're running an independent border republic roughly the size of something like Andorra, maybe a little bigger. Everything outside your borders is foreign, even the Soviets

How does this work? Where am I getting the initial funding? Who am I? Who authorised this? What is this madness?

[-] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Which has the silly implication that there are no other cities under your state, or your state has no industry for producing construction materials and educating construction workers domestically outside of this specific city.

You do spend a lot less money if you do have other cities under your state, but that's usually not the case if you start a new game on a random map though. You can set up a custom map with a starting city tho (it's sometimes hard to get to a stage where sewage works on an edit-map since you can't test the sewage system as you go along)

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