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[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The claim does lack evidence, I agree! I'm only speaking anecdotally - But that's a little more evidence than the claim that the protests don't work.

[–] whodoctor11@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

No? There is not how evidence works. Anecdotally evidence don't count as proper evidence precisely because it is not falsifiable, i.e. inevaluable. And lack of proper evidence of something is evidence that this something doesn't exist. Therefore, when there is insufficient evidence that X is true, we assume that X is false, until we have evidence to the contrary.. There's even a Latin expression for that in legal disputes. "semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agit".

But let’s ignore how logic works for now. What if I told you that I have anecdotal evidence to the contrary? That every single person offline that I’ve talked to about the subject thinks these protests are ridiculous? That I saw a tweet mocking the protesters that got a few thousand likes? See how you get nowhere if you start considering anecdotal evidence?

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I already know and agree with what you've said here. I would happily concede that both of our positions lack good evidence for a wide, systematic effect.

I can only share my experience which is proof that, at least in my tiny part of the world, these protests have worked. You're very welcome to have anecdotal evidence to the contrary, I was just sharing my own and I'm unsure why I'm getting logic'd for it. I think perhaps you're inferring a much larger claim from my words than I was trying to make.