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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Fascism doesn't just come and go because people wax and wane in collective stupidity, it's a very specific set of conditions including Class Colaborationism, rising nationalism, and declining material conditions causing people to long for "the good old days" and "take care of our own, the immigrants are stealing from us so we can't." The Class Colaborationism bit is important, because it explains why Social Democracies are especially vulnerable to fascism, as Social Democracy is also based on Class Colaborationism, just not based on nationalism and violent suppression.

People don't randomly become fascist out of nowhere, it's a failure to move forward and improve conditions that is being taken advantage of by bad actors to solidify power.

[-] joe_cool@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

Yeah, free, happy and educated people don't suddenly wake up as fascists one day.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

No, they are conditioned to it by radical fascist talk radio and little betas like Charlie Kirk

[-] iopq@lemmy.world -3 points 4 months ago

Note that conditions haven't been getting worse in America, but there's a campaign by the populists to make people feel like it's worse.

The economy is better than before the pandemic, the wages have finally started beating inflation (to the point people are making more now in wages than before the pandemic). But if you're on social media you would not think this is the case.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

Conditions have been getting worse. Capitalism requires this. Wealth disparity is skyrocketing, wages fail to keep up with productivity, and American Imperialism is causing genocide.

A minor uptick as compared to a couple years ago does not mean Capitalism is no longer declining.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Except the uptick is from 1990, it's been getting better for about 34 years now, with setbacks in the dotcom crash, financial crisis and the pandemic.

There haven't been better wages at any point in US history as we beat the uptick of the 1970s some time ago

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Wages have been stagnating with respect to productivity, disparity is rising, home ownership is becoming more impossible for the average person, and the bulk of this decline is exported to the Global South which we brutally exploit for cheaper goods.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Home ownership rate has been steady for decades

The wages have been going up, just not exactly as fast productivity for several reasons:

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

That certainly doesn't look steady, lol. Large investment firms and banks are buying up a large number of single family housing, making it unaffordable.

Wages do go up, yes, with respect to inflation. They get nowhere close to productivity increases, as exploitation rises.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Look at the scale, it's between 63-68 for decades and the top number was literally a bubble

I agree that not all of the productivity gains go to the workers, but the workers are better off now than before

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I am referring to the literal times we live in. Single-family housing units are being gobbled up by large firms, this will not show up on your graph just yet.

The Workers are now recieving even less of the Value they create than before, that's a wild way to justify this.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Corporations owning houses is a tiny percentage, again, home ownership rate is 60%+

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

It is not a tiny percentage, and it is getting worse.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It's not even a special problem if a corp is a landlord or just one person.

The problem is not enough housing, not enough construction. Housing prices are actually decreasing in Austin because Texas builds

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Landlords are problems themselves, it doesn't matter if it's a corp or a person.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

The problem is NIMBYs, not landlords

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago
[-] iopq@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Why? It's impossible for all of the homes to be owned, we've been between 63-68% home ownership

In fact, a nasty thing happened when the home ownership peaked around 2008

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Public and individual ownership. Renting for profit is predatory.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Not everyone can just pay a down payment on a property

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Public and individual ownership.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

The government doesn't have the money to buy every property

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Is that what I am advocating for?

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