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Lemmy.ml tankie censorship problem - Lemmy.World
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this post was submitted on 06 Jun 2024
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It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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I have accounts on a handful of instances and this is a common thing. Even instances that are federated with each other will often not be able to see some of each other's users (or their posts obviously) and even entire communities. There are lemmy.ml comms that we can't see from hexbear. For months I couldn't see any of my comments made on my hexbear account from my lemmygrad account and there are certain hexbear users I can't see at all from my lemmygrad account and other ones I can't see from my lemmy account. (Edit: Any comments made in the last 7 months on my lemmygrad account, I can't see from hexbear.) Personally, I'd recommend that hexbears make accounts on other instances too, not just to see these things that are invisible, but also to comment and counter some of the liberal bullshit that so often goes unchallenged because it was posted by people on instances that defederated from hexbear. Like .world, and the trash they spew across lemmy, as this post demonstrates.
Isn't there something about a user has to be subscribed to another instance's comm to get them shared? I remember hearing something like that.
Maybe there is something like that but I can see plenty of comms I'm not subscribed to on other instances, if that's what you mean. And for example, I can't see the c/privacy comm on lemmy.ml at all (from hexbear) to even subscribe to it to begin with. It also doesn't explain why I can't see some hexbear users from my lemmygrad account.
I mean like, I think any user on an instance has to be subscribed to that comm to get it shared for everyone.
But this only happens if you deliberately go there via hexbear (and the only way I know to do that on a non-joined instance is to manually type the URL), like https://hexbear.net/c/piracy@lemmy.ml and then click 'subscribe'. I did it once and it claimed the subscribe was "requested" so maybe an admin has to approve?
As for https://hexbear.net/c/privacy@lemmy.ml not showing up I have no idea though, that's weird.
Yeah, that may be so. Like there has to be a first person that breaks the barrier for that foreign instance's comm by subscribing to it before posts in that comm can show in the feed for other people belonging to that first person's instance. That seems like it would be an odd way of doing things imo, but clearly lemmy can be very odd, so that could be.
Still, I think that is a completely separate issue from what I'm talking about, as you can see with the lemmy privacy comm not existing according to hexbear. And what's more, is that certain people on hexbear are simply not visible to anyone on lemmygrad. I know of a few hexbear users who post comments all the time, but if I'm viewing the thread from lemmygrad, I never see their comments, even if I'm looking right at them in the same thread from hexbear in another browser tab. And if I try to go to their user page from lemmygrad, it just shows a "couldnt_find_user" error. If they make a post, no one on lemmygrad will know about it. If they post a comment and a ton of people reply, no one on lemmygrad will see any of that thread... despite hexbear and lemmygrad being federated. And this is vice versa too, with some lemmygrad users and their posts never showing up to people on hexbear.
If you go to hexbear's c/literature comm from hexbear, you see a bunch of fairly recent posts, and a long history of posting in that comm in general. However, if you view that comm from lemmygrad: https://lemmygrad.ml/c/literature@hexbear.net then all you will see is 4 posts... total. As if only 4 posts were ever made in that comm. Every other post in that comm of who knows how many hundreds simply aren't visible to people from lemmygrad. And I think that often there are posts that never show up to federated instances because I've seen this happen with other instances too.
In short: just because you're federated with an instance, don't assume you can see all the posts there and don't assume you can see all the users there because there are almost certainly a lot of each that are simply not visible to you or anyone from your instance. Edit: Also don't assume that anyone from another instance can see you just because you see them. They may not see your posts, comments or even be able to look at your user page (which will just give an error).
Is it because these users are banned or something?
No! It's not. I've double checked that to make sure. I did user searches of the modlogs of the respective instances, and I even DM'd an invisible person about it and they had no idea why they couldn't be seen from another instance. I'm almost positive it's just a bug. Some people are simply unlucky to be affected by it. So far as I know I've never been banned, but like I mentioned, anything I've posted (granted, it hasn't been much) with my lemmygrad account in the last 7 months, is not visible from my hexbear account. https://hexbear.net/u/MaeBorowski@lemmygrad.ml shows the last comment made was 7 months ago. https://lemmygrad.ml/u/MaeBorowski shows 8 days ago. But at least my user page isn't an error where nothing can be seen, which is the case for some others.