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Bush Jr should have been convicted for mass murder. Obama should have been convicted for drone strikes.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but at least those awful actions are plausibly covered as a presidential act made in the country’s interests. I’m not saying they were good for the US, just that they could argue that was the process.
Trump’s shit is all self-serving and against the interests of the United States.
If your country's interests require committing mass murder (like Bush Jr or Obama did), then your country is an awful evil place.
I cannot disagree with you there!
That’s mostly what I meant by this sentence:
Even if they make the worst, most destructive decisions that most of their constituents disagree with, it’s still a presidential act. I assume they can’t be charged in the US. Might be different in an international court, but I think we refuse to recognize their authority or something, because U-S-A! U-S-A!
Mhhh yes lying about WMDs in Iraq to bomb the entire country to rubble and steal their oil. That's a lot worse than bribing a porn star
I’m sure it goes without saying, but legal wrongs and moral wrongs are very different things, like in this case.
The argument would be “I’m immune because it’s a presidential act” and not “I did the right thing.” Kind of like how cops get away with horrible shit because of qualified immunity.
You know that's not what he was tried for and convicted of. You're just arguing in bad faith.
Trump increased drone strikes 432%, so same there.
All ex American presidents in jail for war crimes?
Don't threaten us with a good time
I agree, but apparently presidents are immune from prosecution for anything done in office. I really hope that can get overturned, but it's the current state of the law.
Yeah, we know. That has no bearing on this case.
Trump and Clinton raped women. Probably not the only presidents.
Edit: I'm not talking about Lewinsky. See my comment below.
Rape is bad. Mass murder is much worse.
Starving teens of millions is OK though.
Trump raped. Clinton just used his positions of power to make him think he was a player. Very, very significant distinction.
Clinton's sexual misconduct extends far beyond Monica Lewinski.
I'd be happy to lock both of them up. We know they were both buddies with Epstine. Fuck them both.
You forgot this guy
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_sexual_assault_allegation