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You have packages from outside the official main repo, in the universe repo.
You are using a stable Distribution so packages are frozen and need backported security updates.
You dont get them for the optional universe repos, but if you give them a bit of money (or afaik Ubuntu pro is even free for a few devices) then they will also support these 3rd party packages.
It is an optional service, they warn you that you use outdated packages, and offer a solution.
I dont use Ubuntu and Snaps are crap, but this is totally fine.
Thank you for some much needed background information (and perhaps even some of Ubuntu's justification)!
That's a bit harsh 😜. Though, I agree the 'f*ck-Ubuntu'-circlejerk is very present.
I guess it's wishful thinking to argue that they should have included the security patches from the get-go.
I dont know how Ubuntu does that stuff, but
universeis community supported only. It is required for many normal packages, so yes you could say their service is not good enough but hey, its free Software.If you dont pay a cent you have like nothing to complain
I'm very unfamiliar with Ubuntu, so I apologize for my ignorance. Is
universetheir AUR, COPR, OBS? I thought that PPAs were Ubuntu's user repository.This is what I dont understand too. No, it is for regular packages, not random 3rd party stuff.
Those are made on Launchpad and available as PPAs, originally meant to be the first step, followed by having them approved to Ubuntus repos.
So, would it be fair to say that their packages suck and they're desperately fundraising money through ads in hopes of fixing it?
No. You are using a stable Distro. This is how stable distros work.
If you want upstream updates for all packages, use a rolling or semi-rolling release like Fedora, Arch, OpenSUSE, Gentoo, etc.
But Debian does get security updates backported, right? Like, is Ubuntu actively preventing you from getting these?
I dont know how many packages they share but this seems very unrealistic.
Debian and Ubuntu have different release schedukes and package versions.
True. But Debian Testing and Unstable do exist. Which should be primary candidates for where Ubuntu gets their packages.
Disagree. Trojans are totally free, and I feel I have plenty to complain about there.
What Desktop do you use with your Trojan?