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[-] mojo_raisin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Isn’t “the state” just cultural mechanisms extended beyond familial or interpersonal ties?

This is "community"

"State" refers to a group of people that feel entitled to rule over others and use violence to do so. To help ensure their power they create laws that make their violence legal and give it names like "law enforcement" and make your violence, particularly violence to protect yourself against them, illegal. This typically goes along with enclosure leaving people nowhere to escape the state.

There’s a threshold where the group becomes too numerous for a member to form social ties with all other members.

This is true but does not on it's own lead to the formation of state. Without dominator types successfully taking advantage of the situation, it could just as well lead to loosely connected communities. Also, the size of early non-state communities was limited to ecosystem provided resources (i.e. they were inherently sustainable), our populations are not because we found fossil energy.

Domination and "the state" are not equivalent, but it takes the former for the latter to come about. Domination without the state has always existed on some level, I think that pre-state societies had cultural mechanisms to prevent dominators from taking over.

this post was submitted on 15 May 2024
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