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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Just because you read slowly doesn’t mean I do.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Another personal attack because you can’t make a rational argument.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You told me I couldn’t read 127 comment in the nearly seven minutes between comments.

I did and had time to respond to you but you don’t believe me because you must read slower.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You told me I couldn’t read 127 comment in the nearly seven minutes between comments.

No I didn’t. I said that your claim was an obvious lie. You’re welcome to prove otherwise with evidence, but, given the body of your behavior here during this discussion, I’m certain you would lie in order to “win” or “score points” in this argument, regardless of how silly or pointless the lie. your entire comment history here represents a dishonest representation of yourself when convenient.

I did and had time to respond to you but you don’t believe me because you must read slower.

There’s that zero-sum worldview again, where the only way you could do better is if someone else does worse. That’s the zero-sum bias

Zero-sum bias is a cognitive bias towards zero-sum thinking; it is people's tendency to intuitively judge that a situation is zero-sum, even when this is not the case.[4] This bias promotes zero-sum fallacies, false beliefs that situations are zero-sum. Such fallacies can cause other false judgements and poor decisions.[5][6] In economics, "zero-sum fallacy" generally refers to the fixed-pie fallacy.

Do you often invent fantasies about strangers online when you’ve gambled foolishly on an argument you can’t win? Seems like a coping mechanism with very little payoff and a lot of toxicity.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

How am I supposed to provide the evidence you’re looking for?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s your problem, not mine. Unlike you, I have no problem backing up my claims… and very well know better than to tell ridiculous lies.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You continue to refuse to back up your claims.

You’re acting like the anti-abortion activists right now, being completely unable to hear the other side of the conversation.

I’m acting like the pro-choice people putting out well thought out arguments backed up by facts and logic and a heathy dose of freedom and personal responsibility.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You continue to refuse to back up your claims.

There’s that amnesia again! I’ve provided evidence repeatedly. All you can do is sealion.

You’re acting like the anti-abortion activists right now

More personal attacks because you have no rational response.

being completely unable to hear the other side of the conversation.

Except when I read and responded to every single thing you said. Just because I used evidence to prove you wrong over and over and over again - and you ignored it every time - doesn’t mean I didn’t listen to you— it proves that I did.

I’m acting like the pro-choice people putting out well thought out arguments backed up by facts and logic and a heathy dose of freedom and personal responsibility.

Another coping mechanism fantasy you”ve invented; this didn’t happen. But, if your “beliefs” still hold that this happened, please link to the facts and evidence and so-called “logic”. This should be interesting considering that you don’t even understand how health insurance works, what it’s for, or the definition of the word “gambling”.

As I’ve said several times before: you’re free to your “beliefs”, but the facts and evidence contradict them.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My religion says gambling is a sin.

Insurance of any sort is a gambling as Ned from The Simpsons proves in his quote from the 8th episode of the 8th season of The Simpsons.

Now, you’re free to disagree but you haven’t been able to disprove either of those facts that together form an air-tight case for what I’m saying.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

My religion says gambling is a sin.

Irrelevant to the discussion and a straw man

Insurance of any sort is a gambling as Ned from The Simpsons proves in his quote from the 8th episode of the 8th season of The Simpsons.

Fictional characters in a cartoon are not a source of reliable, verifiable facts, especially regarding healthcare and/or economic advice. And, wow, if you’re telling me that you base your financial and healthcare decisions (not to mention your religious convictions) based on a line from The Simpsons, then don’t simultaneously claim that you’re making a rational argument based on logic and facts. “Ned from The Simpsons said it” is a claim so ridiculous it really proves how desperate you are to hold onto your “beliefs” in the face of facts, evidence, and actual logic.

Now, you’re free to disagree but you haven’t been able to disprove either of those facts that together form an air-tight case for what I’m saying.

It’s your responsibility to prove your claims, not for me to disprove them, and you haven’t done that at all. Oh, and some throwaway joke from a fictional cartoon - on its own - isn’t proof of anything other than that your “beliefs” have a fictional (and very silly) basis.

Nice self-own.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why are you calling my religion irrelevant and a straw man?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Because we are discussing health insurance and the definition of gambling. You keep trying to change the subject to various other subjects, such as:

  • “being an American male”
  • unemployment insurance
  • your wages
  • crossing the street
  • my usage of quotation marks

and including religion, which is a straw man

straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

That amnesia is really hitting you hard!

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In the last 140 comments we’ve wandered through many topics, including what colour socks you are wearing.

It’s no longer a straw man.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

No, you keep trying to change the subject, and I keep calling it out while staying on the subject of health insurance and the meaning of the word “gambling.” Again, blaming me for your words and actions.

You’re free to your “beliefs”, but the facts and evidence contradict you.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Besides I was talking about walking on the side of a street but never crossing it.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

You were using straw man because you had no rational response to a discussion about health insurance.

straw man fallacy (sometimes written as strawman) is the informal fallacy of refuting an argument different from the one actually under discussion, while not recognizing or acknowledging the distinction.[1]One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So would you consider walking on the side of a road gambling?

This is the comment you characterized as ‘crossing the street.’

Can we trust anything else you say if you confuse simple comments like this?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I don’t care if you trust me. I never have. Others will trust the evidence and facts that they have seen so far.

But I will continue to point out when you post misinformation because it’s the right thing to do.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

But it’s lacking evidence and facts, besides my very convincing arguments.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Just because you ignore the facts and evidence does not mean that they aren’t there. Everyone else but you can see them, apparently. And I really don’t care whether you believe me or not. I only care that others don’t believe you.

And only you are convinced by your arguments. You, and a fictional cartoon named Ned.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you think people are going to read 151 comments and think anything besides you are a little obsessive about this topic?

My parents didn’t raise me, they did drugs and drank until they passed out and woke up and did it all over again.

Ned from The Simpsons raised me in half hour increments that have shaped my entire life and given me a life long lust for the lord’s love and a respect for my fellow man and their opinion that apparently you do not.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
  1. wow, that’s sad
  2. it’s irrelevant to this discussion
  3. I don’t care
  4. somebody has made it this far to upvote my comments….
  5. if you hadn’t gambled your health and well-being foolishly by not getting health insurance, you could afford to work through these troubling issues with a trained psychotherapist rather than… this

And, again, you make a personal attack because you have no rational response.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Who do you think is upvoting them?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow, that’s even more sad than the story you just told me.

Also, irrelevant.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think it’s cute you thought someone was waiting with bated breath for each of your witty responses but wasn’t downvoting idiotic me for some reason.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

There you go again with your fantasy scenarios again… or was that just projection… again?

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ok, let’s wrap this up.

Overall, I rate this a 7/10 troll. 5 base points, plus 1 for sticking with it and another bonus point for that shit about Ned Flanders. That made me laugh so hard, I almost broke character and called you out, but I wanted to see how far you’d take it.

Thanks for the practice. I haven’t had a good one of these since my Reddit days.

Time for bed. See you around, bud