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Pro-Palestine demonstrators in Portugal assaulted by Israeli tourists
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...and Germans voted for Hitler.
Americans did and will again vote for trump. That doesn't mean all Americans want what he wants.
Y'all are fucking ridiculous. It's alarming.
And Germans have to take the responsibility for the atrocities of the Nazi time yes. What are you on about? If people vote for a government in a democratic election they bear responsibility for it. Not individually but as a people.
Also the Germans voted Hitler once and then there were no more elections. Israel had 11 elections since Netanyahu first came into power. And also the non Netanyahu governments continued the "settlements" aka ethnic cleansing of the West Bank.
To reiterate: We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
Denying people tourist visas based on their country being complicit in a genocide is not an atrocity. Committing genocide is.
To reiterate: We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
So by your logic Germany should not have paid reparations to the survivors and descendants of the Holocaust and should have paid no reparations to the countries it invaded? Because that was paid by the tax payer money of the people who were part of the war generation and the generations after. Even though clearly the generations after were not directly complicit, they bear the historic responsibility.
What you are advocating for under the guise of not "normalizing atrocities" is to simply abolish every people from being held accountable for their atrocities.
No I'm not. You're putting so, so many inaccurate words in my mouth. That's why I simply repeat myself so you can continue to play crazy person.
We don't judge the Russian people for Putin's actions.
We don't judge Germans for Hitler's actions.
People are people. Countries are countries.
To reiterate: We don't judge a people by their nation state. That's how atrocities get normalized.
We do judge those people who voted for Hitler. The Germans do so as well. We use that political party as a slur for a reason. I would not be surprised if other countries use "Nazi" as a slur as well.
Russia's election is a joke. That's what makes this different from blaming the Germans who voted for Hitler for giving the world Hitler.
Voted for?
Your words not mine.
Are you getting paid by Zionists to spam that thing about the nation state, it's really fucking weird
Why would you think I am a Zionist? jfc. You people are braindead.
You don't judge people based on where they're fucking born.
Do you know what "nation state" means? Apparently not.
Why'd you downvote me, I didn't ask what you were, I asked if they were paying you. Clearly your hands are running faster than your brain is.
I downvoted you because it's an asinine question.
Only about ~30% actually voted for Hitler if memory serves.
Not that it makes it ok, but...
Ok now try pointing out that Gazans voted for Hamas. I’ll get the popcorn.
The last election in Gaza was in 2006. 65% of the population in Gaza is 24 or younger (!!!) so the majority of Gaza residents literally could not have voted for anyone, including Hamas.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elections_in_Palestine
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_State_of_Palestine
Try living under violent, oppressive, ethno-nationalist, colonialist, apartheid for 80+ years and see what options you and your family might be willing to consider.
Also add in the direct monetary support from Likud and Netanyahu to prop them up as the only viable option.
Oh, 100% of them did?
See and now I get the downvotes. lol