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That Blue MAGA outreach...
(lemmy.world)
Horrible voter outreach.
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This isn't how the democrats reach out. This is an info op.
I think that Eric Mayefsky with the National Democratic Training Committee PAC might actually think he is helping with this campaign. He's was one of those Tech Company CEO wannabes with a PhD in Economics who "made the move from private to political career", but he is really shitting the bed if he thinks things like this will make us want to vote Blue. I wouldn't work with the institution that gave him his degree.
No, I mean I have the Dems in my messages daily at this point. I'm on somebody's list of undecided voters. And this isn't how they do it. This is bait that's been put out to take advantage of the people that are told they're either Biden or Trump supporters on social media. Someone (I wonder who it could possibly be?) wants to entrench the divide between progressives/leftists and liberals. It's a literal information operation, not a genuine voter outreach attempt.
Well, even if we say that, the PAC supplies campaign funds to candidates directly. I doubt they even store the answers on their little poll, it just leads directly into a donation portal.
That site doesn't exist. It gets autocorrected to the National Democratic Training Committee. Who famously doesn't do voter outreach. Their mission is to recruit people to actually work inside the party.
You keep assuming there's some kind of good faith here. There is not. This is either the GOP, China, or Russia, trying to depress leftist voting.
So we think a fake outreach is redirecting people to a real Dem PAC? It's convoluted but I could see it happening.
Yeah. If I point you to Biden's campaign website after calling you a filthy communist, it doesn't mean it was approved. This is also how the "remember to vote on (day after voting ends)" scams work.
Yeah but why that specific PAC? Maybe they shopped around for a little while to see which one had the most reprehensible site, and found this tech dude's page with a fake bs poll begging for donations?
Well if that's the case then I hope Eric sues the pants off whoever is responsible, but again it's all very convoluted.
It's a shortlink for tracking user engagement. It redirects users to the primary site while making note that someone followed that specific link which was probably set up for their SMS campaign. If you look at the page URL history here you can see where it hits tech dudes site that redirects you to the PAC's main site.
Ah, I think I see what you're saying now. You're not refuting that the site may or may not be affiliated with the PAC but rather adding context that the mere use of the link itself is a form of data collection?
I'm not the person you were going back and forth with, but yeah. The person who set up the redirect could be a service provider, a friend/fan of the PAC, or some other form of third party. If you're curious enough about whether they're acting with the knowledge and blessing of the PAC, you could contact them and ask about OP's message and the shortlink. They would be able to provide more info rather than jumping to conclusions based on unsubstantiated claims of nation state influence operations.
PACs are not nation state entities, they're pipelines for corporations to fund election campaigns. They're a stain on the earth as a whole, that this PAC wants favorable outcomes doesn't change that.
The other person was suggesting that this is a GOP/China/Russia influence campaign, I'm suggesting that this is likely outreach funded by the PAC. Their scummy tactics and coercive language are no better than phishing and/or gift card scams