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And no "water with a twist of lemon/slice of cucumber" goofs. Water isn't allowed.

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[-] downpunxx@kbin.social 176 points 1 year ago

Water is the main component of any and every beverage

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I had this argument with my roommate once. It was probably the biggest argument we ever had. IMO, just because it has water in it doesn't mean that the drink is water. Like, some people don't like the taste of water, but that doesn't mean that they don't like milk, which has water in it.

For me a beverage is defined by its flavor, not its components.

[-] snowe@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

They said no goofs like lemon water though. So what’s the line?

[-] scrypt@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

i mean lemon water is still called water.

you don’t call apple juice apple water or sprite sprite water. i think the limiter is pretty naturally deferred in the naming of the drinks themselves.

[-] Donebrach@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah but this is the same reason Pluto is no longer a planet. Definitions matter, and every single beverage that humans consume is mostly water so, where is the line drawn on saturation of additional components? We need a DEFINITE line. Also I am in the camp that every beverage is “[Additive]-water” and anything that crosses the “not-water” barrier becomes “soup” until it is a baked good or building material.

[-] snowe@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

I purposefully called it lemon water. You could also call it lemonade.

you don’t call apple juice apple water or sprite sprite water.

but you do in other languages. Just because it's hard to find examples in English doesn't mean that the concept is unique.

Examples:

  • Agua de horchata
  • Agua fresca
  • Agua de Jamaica a type of tea
  • people are literally saying coconut water in this thread so idk what you think that is.
  • Agua de Valencia a mimosa style cocktail
  • Uisce beatha literally 'Water of Life' in Irish, it refers to Whiskey
  • Aquavit another spirit that translate... you guessed it.. to Water of Life!
  • Nước Chanh ... i'll let you google this one yourself 😉

In fact if you start looking into the root words of things you'll find 'water' everywhere! Vodka, you guessed it, is based on the root Slavic word 'voda' meaning..... Water!!! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vodka

We're just talking about water here. This extends to literally any ingredient in any drink ever. If you start looking at other drinks you start finding strange things like Punch which may be from the Sanskrit for 'five' denoting the five ingredients used in it.

The word punch may be a loanword from Hindi पाँच (pāñć), meaning "five", as the drink was frequently made with five ingredients: alcohol, sugar, juice from either a lime or a lemon, water, and spices.

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