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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Oh he won't. But neither will Biden.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Right. So maybe you should look at everything else they have done as president and realize there’s a lot more at stake in this election.

[-] orangeicicle@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Right. So maybe you should look at everything else they have done as president and realize there’s a lot more at stake in this election.

you mean like voting against gay marriage; lgbt in the military & federal service and then only changing his mind LONG after lgbt people fought against him and now their issues have popular support?

or maybe it's forcing permanent student loan debt; disabling bankruptcy protections and imprisoning immigrants fleeing persecution that you like?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

No. I mean what Trump and Biden have done in their presidency. Your claims are all false.

https://lemmy.world/comment/9870416

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago

No he's right. Biden has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing the right thing his entire career. As for what's happening right now, he's not reformed student loans, he's screwed over Unions and climate change, and he didn't effectively deal with an attempted coup.

Now he wants us to vote for him again to protect us from the guy that's still free because Biden failed to do his most basic job. All while he's supporting a genocide.

Fuck you for trying to gaslight us and fuck that.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I would love to see you support those claims with proof that doesn’t come from Fox News. lol

What are you reading? He increased the cost to lease an oil site, increased taxes on the oil industry, created a 13 million acre oil-free reserve in Alaska, subsidized EVs and solar panels, and created an environmental task force.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Solar panels and EVs were subsidized by Obama. Biden actually rolled the EV subsidies back to protect Ford and GM who weren't ready for EVs that weren't luxury vehicles. They then proceeded to immediately shit the bed. NYT in April of 2023 reports that just 11 vehicles qualified after the rule changes. That list is now 12 vehicles long according to Consumer Reports.

The environmental task force... is a meeting. I'm not joking. They aren't new agencies or new authorities. It's just a memo requiring certain agencies to talk to each other. Which they already did.

Oh but he taxed oil, and re-closed the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. So the next guy just reverses that. If oil is even that relevant by then. He scored a point in the 50 year old argument about oil drilling. whoopdedoo. Can you tell me what he's doing to make sure we don't strip mine the west for Lithium and other minerals need for the future of our infrastructure? Or are we only allowed to talk about the mining that's already winding down on the timescale?

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden issued a $7B solar subsidy and a new EV tax credit.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/biden-harris-administration-announces-7-billion-solar-all-grants-deliver-residential

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deductions/credits-for-new-clean-vehicles-purchased-in-2023-or-after

It’s faster to repeal legislation than it is to enact it. Trump repealed 112 environmental regulations in one term, setting us back over a decade in progress. It could take 10 year to undo that damage.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/climate/trump-environment-rollbacks-list.html

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I'm not here to talk about Trump. He's a human dumpster fire.

From your own IRS help article-

The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 changed the rules for this credit for vehicles purchased from 2023 to 2032.

It's not a new credit. They changed the rules for an existing credit to favor domestic production down into the supply chain. Which is only met by (currently) 12 vehicles. And for 2024 it looks like Nissan and Honda both managed to get a vehicle back into compliance. (Leaf and Prologue)

And the EPA solar program is just bringing over what DoE has been doing for a decade already. It's great that it got funding, but it's hardly novel and we're already saturated for solar power in many places.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I follow. I thought it was new based on the date of enaction.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That's part of what's soured me about Biden. He keeps taking victory laps on things we already won or that he misrepresents to the people. It started with him trying to claim a victory on immigration by making Asylum even more dangerous than it already is. It's like watching George Bush all over again, just without the hating on minorities.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

He was handed a nation in decline, with massive holes poked by Trump’s rapid repeals. It’s going to be slow to repair. Granted, I’m not a big fan of Biden either. He’s only got my anti-Trump vote.

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