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LoglineCommander Una Chin-Riley faces court-martial along with possible imprisonment and dishonorable dismissal from Starfleet, and her defense is in the hands of a lawyer who’s also a childhood friend with whom she had a terrible falling out.


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[–] kingofmadcows@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I always thought the genetic modification ban was pretty flimsy. It wasn't even established until DS9 since TNG had the Darwin Research Station.

I really don't like how strict they made it in SNW. Why should humans dictate the laws for all races in the Federation? What happened to the Denobulans? Phlox said that they genetically modify themselves.

DS9 said that genetic modification was still allowed for the treatment of serious illnesses. So it doesn't make sense for all permanent genetic modification to be banned.

Also, in DS9, genetic modification was more like performance enhancing drugs. Bashir's modifications gave him an unfair advantage over other people. It's kind of like someone cheating to get into a good school. But that argument also has problems since there are aliens with naturally superior abilities compared to humans. Vulcans have perfect memory, superior physical abilities, and telepathy, they would have a big advantage over humans in a lot of things. But Vulcans aren't banned from Starfleet.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

DS9 said that genetic modification was still allowed for the treatment of serious illnesses. So it doesn’t make sense for all permanent genetic modification to be banned.

The franchise is fairly consistent about genetic enhancements (i.e., augmentation) are illegal, while medical procedures are not. The Darwin station is the biggest outlier.

[–] kingofmadcows@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

TNG overall never said anything about the Federation or Starfleet being against genetic modification. It wasn't just Darwin Research Station. They didn't say anything about it in "Masterpiece Society" either.

Dr. Bashir I Presume was the first episode that any kind of ban was ever brought up. They didn't even say anything about a ban in "Space Seed" or "Wrath of Khan."

Also, when Torres was pregnant in Voyager, she wanted the Doctor to modify her baby to remove Klingon traits and no one said it was illegal.

[–] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They didn’t say anything about it in “Masterpiece Society” either.

That colony wasn't a member of the Federation, though.> Also, when Torres was pregnant in Voyager, she wanted the Doctor to modify her baby to remove Klingon traits and no one said it was illegal.

Also, when Torres was pregnant in Voyager, she wanted the Doctor to modify her baby to remove Klingon traits and no one said it was illegal.

One could argue that's not an augmentation.

[–] simonzerafa@infosec.exchange 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

@kingofmadcows @ValueSubtracted

There was a whole episode of DS9 where Julian Bashir was under investigation because he was genetically modified 🫤🤷‍♂️

[–] majicwalrus@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He was not under investigation for being genetically modified. I think a key aspect of this episode and that episode is that Julian and Una were both under investigation for concealing their status as genetically modified. Neither of them faced any penalty for having the modifications done.

It is only Mr. Bashir who is punished for seeking out and obtaining genetic modification for his developmentally delayed child. Being genetically modified isn't a crime and I don't think it was ever depicted as such - but having a genetic modification done is a crime. And having one done on you prevents you from joining Starfleet in some cases. Although for all we know Ilyrians are given exception to genetic modification rules as long as they're honest about it, but no human has ever gotten an exception so Julian lied to protect his parents and to ensure he'd get into Starfleet.

[–] TheGayTramp@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Una’s testimony included a statement that her 10-year-old friend was arrested along with his parents

[–] Mezentine@startrek.website 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Which is insane. Its not my biggest problem with this episode but the revelation that the Federation has had like...violent pogroms against augments with children being arrested and what sounds like ghettos is incredibly bad? Its presented as an example of how "unfairly" augments have been treated, but that's not unfair treatment, that's borderline genocidal. It puts a way darker spin on the Federation than I think the writers were intending, like I don't think even DS9 in its attempts to deconstruct utopia ever implied anything half as monstrous.

[–] cornofear@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

My interpretation is that since the planet had just been granted provisional Federation membership, basically the same local government was in charge.