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Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com -2 points 4 months ago

If you've never lived in a communist state you're much more likely to favour communism. People who have (lived in communism) don't.

'Mercans believe that social healthcare is communism - until they get seriously ill whereupon they opt for moving to a 'communist' country: UK or Canada or go for the US healthcare provider called gofundme.

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 4 months ago
[-] Pollux@leminal.space 6 points 4 months ago

A state that prioritizes capitalist profit over worker interests is worse for the people?? Who could've seen this coming :0

The capitalist takeover of the former USSR is one of the greatest tragedies of the last few decades. Both for those countries, and for the global socialist movement. The modern capitalist Russia has no reason to support and fund socialist movements like they used to (like in Palestine, Vietnam, DPRK, Cuba, Bangladesh etc)

[-] deadcatbounce@reddthat.com -1 points 4 months ago

That's an amazing set of references to throw my way. Thank-you. I'll read through them in a while. My assertion was based on talking to real people: I'm only just not-Russian myself.

I don't really think you've captured communism: Cuba isn't. China has been moving away from communism for decades. Russia rejected the Communists for the Bolsheviks shortly after the revolution. There's a huge difference between socialism and communism.

The West is in somewhat of a hard time. There's a left shift going on since my golden days (as Gen X). Young people (Gen Z) rightly feel hard done by and the social mobility seems to have been damaged. It feels like the sodding seventies again here in Blighty ( I hadn't even become a teenager when they ended but remember the mood and despair. Candles lighting the supermarket visits. Dead bodies of the unburied and the rats).

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don’t really think you’ve captured communism: Cuba isn’t.

Communism has never yet been achieved, as any communist government will tell you. Socialism is a transitionary step toward communism. You can’t go to bed in a capitalist state and magically wake up to a classless, stateless society.

China has been moving away from communism for decades.

If you think that then you have not been paying attention to what’s been happening in China for the last decade.

Russia rejected the Communists for the Bolsheviks

The Bolsheviks were the communists! Come on. Maybe pick up Wikipedia or an even better wiki on the topic: https://en.prolewiki.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Soviet_Union

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