It's a construction job. Practically everyone is going to be deep red republican. Guy just needs to say his girlfriend had a miscarriage and they were taking it hard and he'd save grace.
Hey i'm not here to make friends or anything. I don't even care of people get angry. The contractors vote for the orange man here even in deep blue Massachusetts.
If you took only the people physically on any major construction site and they were the voting majority, it would be plastered red across the board with an ultra minority of democrat votes (20% or less.)
There's a lot of issues and there's a lot of nuanced factors. I can't even begin to cover all the ones I know about, let alone know them all.
High up in politics there is no meeting in the middle, the other party is the enemy. You're in the club or outside of the club, that's it. That same attitude trickles down to workplaces and social circles. If you want to work with the other team you get put on the sidelines, minimized, have your funding cut, miss out on a promotion. It's essentially join or die, and often times you see people throwing death threats at the other side online where they presume they are anonymous.
Then there's Education. It's mostly dogmatic. It's not about teaching life skills, it's about teaching people to be good workers and to follow along with the status quo with a sprinkling of whatever political ideology runs the state/town. That doesn't help, but changing any of it is highly political.
Universities tend to be liberal, and the highly conservative jobs tend to not require those degrees. You can be a master electrician right out of vocational school, why would you go to a university? If you do have a four year degree, why would you want to work in construction where the environment is so much rougher?
Plus there's the gender gap...
Too much nuance for a comment on social media. This is already way too long. I see no way to fix the system either given that changes need sponsorship by the ones who benefit from the system today.
Oh there are so many issues and so many giant red flags pointing out those issues. But I dunno how the hell to fix it, esp coming from a deep red state...
Americans treat politics more like football rather then then evaluate politics to see what best for themselves, their community and their country. It's like relegion and is more an indoctrination thing. They're not alone in that of courses, its just seems more pronounced and tribal there.
I am not American and don't live there but used to years ago.
It's a construction job. Practically everyone is going to be deep red republican. Guy just needs to say his girlfriend had a miscarriage and they were taking it hard and he'd save grace.
I dunno. He didn't want to make up a kid. Now you're saying he should make up a girlfriend?
They broke up over the stress of losing the pregnancy.
Its like you motherfuckers cant lie at all.
Making the lie bigger and more involved just makes it more easy to discover.
I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT!
Holy shit, they just lost a pregnancy! Leave them alone! They need time!
this is some pro level shit
To be honest, that seems harder than dating
Honestly, losing a kid as a man is enough backstory that nobody at a construction job would want to talk about openly.
I don't think any coworker wants to talk openly about that, regardless of job
"Was he murdered?" I ask as I take a bite of the broccoli fish curry I just microwaved for 5 minutes.
What does republican have to do with that?
I guess the point was that republicans would consider the fetus "son". But a miscarriage is a terrible thing for non-republicans too.
opinion warning
Look I'm not from america, but if someone told me I'm probably voting X because I work Y I'd get pissed no matter if they're right or wrong.
Hey i'm not here to make friends or anything. I don't even care of people get angry. The contractors vote for the orange man here even in deep blue Massachusetts.
If you took only the people physically on any major construction site and they were the voting majority, it would be plastered red across the board with an ultra minority of democrat votes (20% or less.)
So let's assume it's true, but isn't a whole industry voting one way a bit odd? Doesn't it speak of broader issues?
There's a lot of issues and there's a lot of nuanced factors. I can't even begin to cover all the ones I know about, let alone know them all.
High up in politics there is no meeting in the middle, the other party is the enemy. You're in the club or outside of the club, that's it. That same attitude trickles down to workplaces and social circles. If you want to work with the other team you get put on the sidelines, minimized, have your funding cut, miss out on a promotion. It's essentially join or die, and often times you see people throwing death threats at the other side online where they presume they are anonymous.
Then there's Education. It's mostly dogmatic. It's not about teaching life skills, it's about teaching people to be good workers and to follow along with the status quo with a sprinkling of whatever political ideology runs the state/town. That doesn't help, but changing any of it is highly political.
Universities tend to be liberal, and the highly conservative jobs tend to not require those degrees. You can be a master electrician right out of vocational school, why would you go to a university? If you do have a four year degree, why would you want to work in construction where the environment is so much rougher?
Plus there's the gender gap...
Too much nuance for a comment on social media. This is already way too long. I see no way to fix the system either given that changes need sponsorship by the ones who benefit from the system today.
Oh there are so many issues and so many giant red flags pointing out those issues. But I dunno how the hell to fix it, esp coming from a deep red state...
Americans treat politics more like football rather then then evaluate politics to see what best for themselves, their community and their country. It's like relegion and is more an indoctrination thing. They're not alone in that of courses, its just seems more pronounced and tribal there.
I am not American and don't live there but used to years ago.
Wait, only conservatives are supposed to take miscarriages hard? TIL
Nope, but if you're gonna claim your son died and you have no son... well conservatives think fetuses are babies.