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Even from people that never lived in a communist state

edit: im 17 and i hate communism

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[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I don't get why you're being downvoted. There's a great comment by Cowbee (I think) that explains why this is a thing.

There are people who are explicitly self-proclaimed Communists on Lemmy.

This isn't some "Healthcare is communism!!!1" thing.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago

It's probably the idea that Communists take offense to being called Socialist. The opposite is true, as Communism is a maximally Socialist position.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -2 points 4 months ago

If you are going by theory, sure. But if the word socialism gets used in conversation today, it will probably get interpreted as something like the Nordic model.

[-] diplodocus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

That's what happens when the communists are purged and billions of propaganda dollars are spent over generations to erase their memory: you end up with Newspeak, where people don’t know their asses from their elbows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare

[-] lud@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

A lot of the users on those instances also has usernames or pronouns which includes "commie"

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -5 points 4 months ago

I think it is because some people think that socialism is a kind of communism, when that take wouldn't be accepted by a lot of communists here.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Communism is Socialist, there aren't any Communists that would take offense to being called Socialist. There are Socialists that take offense to being called Communist, because for them, Socialism is the goal itself.

[-] Pollux@leminal.space 6 points 4 months ago

There are Socialists that take offense to being called Communist, because for them, Socialism is the goal itself

Very rare. Those who do dislike being called communists probably aren't very serious about socialism at all, and probably only want the "social capitalism" of Scandanavian countries.

[-] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club -3 points 4 months ago

Yep. And on the flip side, if I call a communist a socialist, it may be true technically, but I'm connotating that they want social capitalism instead of full communism.

And while theory written 100 years ago may have those terms be near equivalent, the meanings of those words have drifted a little since then.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Socialism doesn't refer to Social Democracy, but Socialism, ie Worker Ownership of the Means of Production.

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