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[-] astraeus@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

Advertising, by design, is intrusive. It’s fighting for space in your mind whether you want it to be there or not. We can shelve that topic because it’s a side item here.

The difference between making a big deal of nothing and being completely on-topic is that the article itself goes into the responsibilities of publishers and platforms, how they have a responsibility to make the internet a better connected, more human-friendly place. You don’t see massive sources of misinformation locking down their content, but you will definitely see potentially credible sources of information doing that. It’s counter to the premise of the article entirely.

I don’t believe it’s myopic at all to point out that it’s backwards to expect the internet to thrive when quality information isn’t readily available. Sure you can use a different search engine, seek out free content and resources, all of which require an in-depth dive to find anything worthwhile.

The topic of this post is why the internet is dying, and while I recognize people need to make money to eat I think these news media sites are more than capable of providing for their employees with or without a paywall. Megacorps like Google, Meta, and Microsoft having control over what gets the most clicks is definitely contributing to rapid enshittification. Especially when they’re sending most traffic to articles that either have a paywall or a steady feed of bullshit.

[-] acastcandream@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] astraeus@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

Linux is a prime example of quality that isn’t paid for. No one forces you to pay for Linux, you can of course support the maintainers and donate, but it’s not a for-profit endeavor.

[-] acastcandream@beehaw.org 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

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[-] davehtaylor@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
  1. The largest code contributors to Linux are corporate contributions
  2. Regular people who contribute to OSS do so as a passion project, as a hobby, and have other unrelated jobs that pay the bills. Those people still have to make a living, they're just not doing it from their software contributions. Journalism isn't a hobby and you can't work a day job and still be an effective journalist. News orgs don't come together as hobby projects.

I'm not defending advertising. I hate it and think it's ruined the web. I'm just addressing the analogy here wrt Linux.

[-] interolivary@beehaw.org 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

How do you propose these "open source journalists" make a living? Corporate grants or straight-up corporate jobs just like a huge chunk of Linux development, landing us right back at square one, if not even somewhat behind it? At least independent media exists nowadays, but if the assumption is that all news has to be freely available, like acastcandream said that'd just lead to journalism being very effectively locked out as a career path for anyone who's not independently wealthy or somehow able to make people actually donate or pay for a subscription despite the content being available for free – and that hasn't worked out too well for most publishers so far.

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