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Wow. Two stories in one day about how America brought freedom to Iraq.
It's America's fault because Bush invaded to "bring freedom" to Iraq and then America stayed there for seven years and this is the result a decade later. And you think America should still be occupying Iraq? Should it be annexed as the 51st state or something?
You realize that by reducing all political activity in Iraq to the invasion of Iraq, you are posing the Iraqi people as puppets with no will of their own?
So that I don't repeat myself, see this reply: https://lemmy.world/comment/9699031
Homosexuality was legal in Iraq while Saddam was in power.
Edit: re your edit-
No, but I am saying their will isn't being represented. Because it isn't.
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2021/10/iraqi-elections-still-do-not-deliver-democracy
Queers? I don't know. Women? Because I do know.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Iraq
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Iraq
So I don't know for sure if queer people's lives would have been better, but at least they wouldn't have been automatic criminals.
See above: re Satayana.
Yes, I quoted that part. It came after the part I bolded that said "In the years following the 1991 Gulf War," which makes me think you didn't actually read much of it.
The 1991 Gulf War was when the U.S. invaded Iraq the first time. It was, again, America's fault.
1990? You mean when America started threatening to Invade and Saddam sought the aid of the fundamentalists to stay in power, going against his own party?
Yes, I agree, Saddam was a terrible dictator.
That doesn't change the fact that homosexuality was legal when he was in charge and illegal now.
And I re-iterate my previous point that it wouldn't have happened anyway if America hadn't stuck its nose in.
Saddam didn't reach out to the Islamists while at war with Iran. He certainly could have.
I'd trade Iraq for Texas. They have more oil and probably less genocidal bigots, even in light of this news.
At least you can talk Iraqis down from the death penalty.
They were a shithole before we invaded and they are still a shithole. We didn't bomb homophobia into the country.
And yet, homosexuality was legal then and it's illegal now. Seems like a big difference to me.
Iraq was a secular country with the best healthcare in the region. The US war made electricity and water no longer available 24/7 and allowed a wave of fundamentalism in. Pretending it was broken before the war is ignorance.