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Image is of Iranian missiles flying over the Knesset, the Israeli parliament building in Jerusalem.


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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 66 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

All this talk about the imminent Israeli retaliation reminds me of the always just-around-the-corner Ukrainian ubermensch counteroffensive

[-] FungiDebord@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

It's only been hours and I don't think it's really that comparable.

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago
[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

Iran doesn't need nukes to deter the zionists. They have demonstrated their capability to precisely strike any target in the illegal zionist entity. If they want to, in a Domesday scenario Iran can strike zionist nuclear facilities, thereby irradiating large parts of Palestine.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

it would also be relatively trivial for Iran to land a dirty bomb full of uranium in the middle of Tel Aviv and make it uninhabitable for millennia to come (or at least decades if there are mindbogglingly expensive cleanup efforts), which I honestly think is scarier than a nuke

it's what we ostensibly invaded Iraq over

[-] D61@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

I always viewed "dirty bombs" as massively overrated in any context that isn't purely fictional or propaganda.

[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Iran would need a lot of them to cover a large area (probably hundreds to meaningfully cover every Israeli city) as opposed to a nuke which has a wider radius, but I imagine Iran has that quantity of both uranium and missiles that can carry it built up

it's not really a viable strategy for large countries because dirty bombs would (hypothetically, it's never been tested) have a small radius of effect, so dirty bombs are imagined more in the terroristic sense of causing mass panic and disorder in a single city or even a single district in a city instead of a viable MAD strategy, but Israel is pretty damn small.

ultimately I don't know if Iran would go there even in a MAD situation, perhaps their conventional explosions are good enough to make Israel collapse all by itself, and it could go badly and affect the Palestinians too, but it is a possibility, alongside a nuclear reactor strike

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So just for my own synthesis, it sounds like the fear with dirty bombs used to be that any non-state actor with minimal resources could pull one off, only for it to turn out that to pull one off big enough to be effective, you would need the resources of a state actor, leaving the dirty bomb right next to nerve gas in the in-between zone of weapons that would be a godsend to a small group but which are a sort of niche triviality to an actual country, to be used only under certain circumstances.

So I guess its not outside the realm of possibility, although it would be a serious escalation

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 32 points 7 months ago

If Israel nukes Iran, Israel is over.

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

yes, I don't expect much from the UNSC, but the nuclear taboo is still pretty strong. Especially since the zionist entity doesn't even acknowledge their nukes. I don't think there would be anything more damaging to the "rules based order"

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago

Umm actually according to liberal Reddit generals, nukes are very self containing and wholesome and will not spread anywhere because we have advanced technology and smart people in the military

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