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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Papercrane@feddit.de to c/pcmasterrace@lemmy.world

I really only once built my own pc and that was years ago. Now i finally have a nice job and have around a budget of 2k € to buy a pc. Im from europe, so no american prices for me.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Y7YFBj

A friend of mine said maybe another CPU would be better? The reason i chose a watercooler was to get it very quiet. Does that achieve that? Do they have other issues i should be aware of?

I only will use this pc for gaming and watching movies. Nothing much more. I dont want a curved screen, but i dont even know if i need 165 Hz. I play shooters but only casually.

Thanks for the input already :)

EDIT:

new list without the much recommended 7800X3D but at least it keeps me under 2k€ and there is an upgrade of the GPU. I also thought about going only 27'' but i really would like one bigger screen to watch movies.

I looked at the benchmark of the 7700 and the 7800x3d from cpumonkey and they seemed very similar with the one being somewhere better than the other and vice versa. So maybe not that much of a difference or wrong?

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/PfL489

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[-] RefrigeratorEleven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If your main goal is to play games and watch movies I would make some changes, mainly in order to be able to use your budget and focus it on your video card, of course, I would like the opinion of others, as everyone prioritizes different things.

The important thing is that I am not from Europe, so I do not know what are the exact prices.

With the CPU I would change it for the ryzen 5 7600, ryzen 7 is just overkill and expensive for games, I would prefer to use the extra 100 euros in the GPU, for the X and non X version depends on the price difference

If what you want is silence, I would go for an air cooler, be quiet, noctua or deeplcool are good options (dark pro 4, nh-u2 and ak620 are popular), water-coolers have pumping noises

Ram memory, I would go for 32gb, in this case 2x16gb, this is a good amount for the moment.

I think you can save a little bit on the motherboard, but it's a matter of taste and I think your choice is fine.

The case is a matter of functionality and aesthetics, but I think you can also save a little here, I personally would go for the Corsair 4000D Airflow.

And the rest of the budget, I would put it in the best video card you can afford according to your budget.

The truth is that I think this would be the best option, since having a budget of 2k € with the 6700xt is just a bad build, for example a few weeks ago I made a build for a friend with a budget of 1k that used that video card and his only focus was to play games.

(edited) Adding link to a build example I just made, trying to use some parts that you choose: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/kcpKHG

[-] Papercrane@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago

I just chose the Ryzen 7 because I wanted a build that last a long time. Many people in the post recommended the x3d version of my CPU.

I think I will change to air-cooling. Thanks for the input.

I don't care about the motherboard as long as it does it's job. I just don't need wifi since I have a lan cable.

I just chose the case because i like the front. It looks so cool in my opinion. I also would like a white case.

Thanks for the link, I might choose your GPU.

I can understand the recommendation of x3d, it is a monster of a CPU, but more in the 0.1% and 1% loads, the importance of this will depend a lot on what you prefer, and as I said, where you want to put the strength of your budget, and if you want to game in 1440p the gpu is a lot more important than the cpu.

I also love that case you chose, in fact it is one of my favorite cases and I would love it to be available in my country, but I changed the case to be able to stick to the 2k budget and add a better GPU, also the Corsair one have a white version (and if you like to make a white build I think I need to change some component to stick to your goal aesthetics).

But here comes my personal recommendation from having done different builds over a long time (and possibly the bias of being from a third world country). I still find that the recommendation of Ryzen 7 and Intel i7 for gaming, because it will last longer is a bit exaggerated, if you have a budget, you should stick to it. And you have to know where to have compromises, for example if you go for a ryzen 7 because you say, well I am already spending 2k, adding that 100 or 150 euros is not much, but then I would say, well if you are going to add that extra 100 to 150 euros, you might as well raise your GPU budget, and the 2k budget then becomes 2.5k and so on forever.

Also as a personal experience, one often has the idea of improving your build in the future (I include myself in this), but all the times I have improved my build, I end up regretting it, the times I have not had regrets have been when I sold the entire build, to buy a new one.

So I think the best thing is. Buy the best you can with the budget you currently have for your particular goal, and for the future you buy a new build selling what you have, because in 3 to 6 more years that ryzen 7 could not age well (no one know).

Sorry for the length of this message, I just got a little motivated writing, in the end it will be your opinion that matters, and anything, I'm here to help. It should be said that there are many different prioritizations when building computers, I think you will have to find yours and that is gained with experience and possibly making mistakes.

[-] Papercrane@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hey, thanks for your message. Sticking to a budget is definitly something i should keep in mind.

I actually checked the case again and it wasnt even the right one. I really like the Meshify, but i guess almost every case from fractal design looks nice. I shifted around some parts from my build and i have the pc with the ryzen 7 (non x3d) and the RX 6900 XT under 2k. What do you think about it? here

I looked at a comparison of the two Ryzen 7 and they seemed very similar. I guess if I wanna stick to the 2k€ I will just get the cheaper one

Nice build, I didn't think you could add a ryzen 7 in that budget, but I realized that the video card I added was way more expensive than it should be.

Something to look out for, that case if I remember correctly is a bit short, and I think you might have problems with the new video cards which are quite large, you would have to check compatibility, but I think the numbers that web pages shows, are without front fans.

Now I made some changes to the build, tell me what you think, I think there will be some good surprises in this new build, I went over 15 euros, but there are options to lower it. For example, the MoBo that you send is cheaper, and there is also a good seasonic psu for 100 euros (semi modular)

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[-] Papercrane@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

here is the updated list.

is that psu also good? I think its kinda awesome that we got everything into the budget and found some improvements :D thanks dude

A year ago there was a drama with the gigabyte psu exploding, I don't know how they are nowadays. With the 6900 xt is recommended a 850W psu, I imagine that 750W is enough, but sometimes it's better to be sure.

The psu brands that are recommended are seasonic, corsair and evga(of course there are more brands recommended, but these are always my priority), If I remember correctly the corsair ones are really seasonic with a rebranding.

With the case, remember to check if the video card will fit, I see it has 5 mm of free space, but try to make a double check.

[-] Papercrane@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I think I heard about the PSU drama. I might choose the seasonic one then. I just thought that the estimates of PCPartPicker actually help with choosing an PSU, which was around 520 w and if I have a bit more than that it should be enough.

Hmmm only 5 mm free space is kind of a thight fit tbh. If something is a bit off, the slot for the GPU for example, then it won't fit xD I just really like the case, but I might change for a roomier one

It is good to use the estimated wattage and increase it by 30%, that is useful to be safe, so 750 should be ok, BUT the thing is, amd official recommendation, says it is better to use 850 watts for that gpu. Here the link

The seasonic PSU that I recommended in one of the builds, I think it would be good for you, as long as you do not mind that it is not modular, if what you want is a modular psu, in one of the builds, I think there is a corsair 850w gold certified.

The case, if you are looking for a white one, as a personal opinion, I think the one I recommended in one of the builds is a good fit (Fractal Design Pop Mini Air MicroATX), it seems to have good airflow, white and the video card should fit with room to spare by 25 mm.

[-] Papercrane@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I just read up on what modular PSUs are and I think a semi modular or (if the budget can hold it) a modular would be better.

I dunno, it seems like they are almost always better if you can afford it

Yeah, in my opinion I don't value so much if the psu is modular or not, I'm more of a functionality over look/ease of use kind of guy, but if it's your first build, yes it might be good to go for a fully modular one.

I did a quick search and found 3 that might be useful for you and stay close to budget (850w and gold certified): -SeaSonic FOCUS GX full modular 135 euros. -Corsair RM850e (2023) fully modular 130 euros. -SeaSonic FOCUS semi modular 110 euros

I think that with any of these 3, you would not be making a mistake.

[-] Papercrane@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thanks, I think I'm kinda set on what build I wanna buy. I don't think I will buy it right now because I still need to save up a bit but I will mention you in my post so you can have a look :)

And who knows, maybe the x3d CPU is until then so much cheaper that I can upgrade to that as well :D

Nice! I will be waiting

Yea, with this pc market, everything could happen hahah

this post was submitted on 30 Jul 2023
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